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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 247
Mr. Somerset. That is not what Mr. Reao;an said. That is what Gene Kelly would have told Sorrell, but which I told him instead.
Mr. McCanx. Xow, when you got back to Hollywood, Mr. Arnold, what did you do ?
Mr. Arnold. A board meeting was called and, of course, we reported to the board and
Mr. McCann. Do you know when that was ?
Mr. Arnold. That was right after the convention. You see, we didn't put any of this stuff down. We are only going from memory. Counsel. It was right after the convention was over and we came back.
Mr. McCann. Tell us what took place, in your own lano;uage.
Mr. Arnold. We called the board meeting and we thought the best thing to do was to get all those interested in the strike and the people on strike, to call them together and tell them the findings, and we made a transcript, I believe, of all the things we could remember that happened in the Chicago visit. We had these meetings and, naturally, we alw^ays came to the same thing about assemblage, and erection of assemblage, and building. So at one of the meetings someone suggested— I don't know who it was — was it Gillette? — about getting the man on the telephone
Mr. Reagan. I know that story.
Mr. Arnold. You probably know it better than I do. I was reading the transcript, so I don't know what happened in between there at the meeting. Someone said, "Let's get the three men out here or telephone them," and they were being referred to at that time as the "three wise men,"' which was very, very unfair and very unkind. As I said before, they did everything they possibly coulcl to settle this thing, and I should like to have Mr. Reagan go on from there, because he had the chair.
Mr. McCann. Let's exchange seats to make it easier.
Mr. Reagan. As Mr. Arnold testified, we decided the most important thing would be to get the information which we had gathered into the hands of all of the interested people. We invited several represeiitatives from each of 43 unions, I think, if my memory serves me correctly — A. F. of L. unions that are in the motion-picture industry— to meet at the Knickerbocker Hotel. I think that first meeting was October 25, and at that meeting between George and Arnold and myself we reported in chronological order, as we have reported here, all of the things that happened — all the things that Hutcheson said and all the things the three men had said, and so forth, and Walsh and the rest.
Incidentally, we added one story at that time. We said that Walsh had contacted Pat in Chicago and had told him that he had been informed by the electricians by Tracy of the IBEW and by Dubinsky of the garment workers, that Mr. Sorrell had told both those gentlemen that if they would issue charters for certain types of work done in the motion-picture studios, he would see that they got the people to do the work. That, as I say, was Walsh's statement to Pat. We reported it at that meeting.
At the end of our report we asked if there was anyone there who thought there was anything we hadn't covered, or if they wanted to