Jurisdictional disputes in the motion-picture Industry : hearings before a special subcommittee of the Committee on Education and Labor, House of Representatives, Eightieth Congress, first-session, pursuant to H. Res. 111 (1948)

258 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES we liiive of iinother clariticution is in the truiiscriplioii of the telephone call. Mr. McCann. Very well. That strai^'htens that out. And that was, as I iiiuU'rstand it, interrupted by the court reporter — didn't get all of it, if you will remember — part of it he lost? Mr. Keagan. That is right. Mr. McCann. I was just a little concerned as to whether there was one other document here which was essential to the picture. Proceed, Mr. Keagan. Mr. Rkagan. Following the receipt of this telegram, we immediately wanted to get in contact with Mr. Birthright or Mr. Knight, and get some explanations of this correction, this telegram which had come apparently correcting the conversation of the previous afternoon, and Eddie Arnold made tliat telephone call and talked with Mr. Birthright. I think he could tell you about that conversation better than I could. Mr. McCann. All right, Mr. Arnold, let's hear from you. Mr. Arnold. Well, I was impressed when we got the wire — naturally, all of us were — and I tried to contact Mr. Birthright, but he was out of town. Then I got hold of Mr. Knight. I don't remember what the conversation was, but I think it is in evidence there, and I would like to refresh my memory, if I may. Mr. McCann. You say it is in evidence? Mr. Arnold. I don't know: I think it is in one of the volumes. Mr. McCann. Would you mind passing that to him? Mr. Arnold. For the October 26 meeting. May I read it ? Mr. McCann. Yes. I think now you are refreshing your recollection from your report made at a meeting of all of the unions the day following the conversation that was had with Mr. Mr. Arnold. The telephone conversation I had with Mr. Knight. Mr. McCann. Fine; proceed. Mr. Arnold. It is right in here now. This is my report after the telegram was read to the meeting : Mr. Arnold. I don't think it matters one way or anotlier. Now tlien. I was a little confused there, I was alone in the office, so I took it upon myself to get Brother Birthright on the phone and I telephoned him at Indianapolis. Word came back he was out of town, and nobody there knew where he could be reached, and so therefore we were confused. I happened to get hold of Knight at Kansas City and asked him if it was cool out there and exchanged a few pleasantries to get him in a good humor to get hold of myself, then Can I use the word "hell" here ? to find out what the hell I was going to say to him. Knight, so I told him about that telegram and I told him what was in it, and I said, "Do vou know about it?" He said, "No." I said, "Didn't you know that Mr. Birthright sent this telegi-am?" He said, "No; I don't know what the other fellow did." I said, "Will you listen to this just a minute; this is the thing that we didn't hear about yesterday, and we are trying to find out now where it came from," and I read to him "erection and assemblage upon stages," and I said, "Did you hear anytliing like that?" Well, he said. "Yes, I think we did do something like that. I am not sure." Well, I said, "Let us read that once more to you and tell me this, does this in any way change your original decision and your original definition of the decision ?" He said, "No, it does not."