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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 275
decision, thnt work then being done by the lATSE on such sets and stages or locations shouki be turned over to the carpenters, or that such work then being done bv the carpenters should be turned over tothelATSE.
As a matter of fact we think that, based on our decision, there should have been a little bit of common sense applied, and that is exactly what w^e anticipated would be done, in view of the shortness of time in Avhich we had to work on this very vital and important task.
Mr. McCaxx. It Avas not your thought, then, at the time that you wrote this section 8, to set aside the traditional work of the carpenters, or the traditional work of the I ATSE on stages ?
Mr. DoiiERTY. That is a true statement, Mr. Chairman and Mr. Counsel.
Mr. McCaxx. It was your idea to perpetuate the spheres of activity of the two organizations, in adopting the language of the 1026 agreement, which you have explained you didn't know had been reversed by the carpenters ?
Mr. DoiiERTY. Repudiated.
Mr. McCaxx. You were simply taking what you thought had been the correct distribution of activities and expected that the historical sphere of influence should be followed by these two unions thereafter.
Mr. DoHERTY. That is a true statement, Mr. Chairman and Mr. Counsel, and I might add this: that the committee Avas motivated by only one thoii2'ht. and ir cam;^ froisi theii heavts, tluit people Avere in trouble; that the breadAvinners in families Avere out of w^ork; that the work opportunities Avere there in one of the industries that pays undoubtedly the highest Avages, where the hours and conditions are miquestionably the best of any industry either in America or any place else on the face of the earth, and we Avanted to see the employees, members of both unions, go back to work and work in peace and have happiness and contentment.
Mr. McCaxx. Noav, Mr. Doherty, there is a point that has caused a great deal of trouble here, and that is Avhy you gentlemen have been brought out.
When we left Washington — for the benefit of you three gentlemen, and we want you to understand this — neither Mr. Kearns nor myself had any conception of what Ave AA^ere going into in Hollywood.
You men know what you got into back there several years ago, but Ave didn't until we began investigating and looking into the evidence— we didn't know anything about this committee having passed upon the problem.
We knew we Avere going to haA^e the testimony of screen stars come in on this issue. We kneAv we Avere going to haA^e the testimony of others on this issue, after a lot of investigation. Therefore Ave needed the men who had passed on this issue for the American Federation of Labor, and we appreciate your being here. We think that you are going to try to help us Avith this problem.
NoAv, gentlemen, there is a A^ery important phase that has been developed this morning and you Avere not here to hear it, and I want to give you a chance to ansAver this testimony. Tlie implication in the testimony that has been giA^en this morning is that the directive was your work, but that the clarification was somebody else's Avork.