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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 431
Mr. McCann. I think that is adequate. Let's proceed.
How okl are you, Father?
Father Dunne. 42.
Mr. McCann. Is your position on the faculty of Loyola University that of an associate professor?
Father Dunne. To the best of my knowledge, yes. I have never looked in our catalog to see how I am listed. I think I am listed as associate professor.
Mr. McCann. Are you acquainted with the written works of Rev. Gerald C. Tracey, S. J. ?
Father Dunne. No; I don't believe I am. What are the works in question ?
Mr. McCann. Well now, Father, I am only reading questions. I admit my ignorance. I have never read any of them, either.
Father Dunne. I don't even know who Father Gerald Tracey is.
Mr. McCann. The next question is, He is a member of the same religious order as you are, is he not ?
Father Dunne. There are about 20,000 of us throughout the world.
Mr. McCann. There has been handed to me a pamphlet of which Father Treacy is the author entitled "Industry at the Crossroads." Are you acquainted with this pamphlet ?
Father Dunne. No ; I am not.
Mr. McCann. I note that it is issued under the imprimatur of Francis Cardinal Spellman, archbishop of New York, on July 3, 1946, and that it contains various questions and answers. On page 20 the following question and answer appears :
"In the case of a just strike, what are the obligations of the strikers?
"Not to injure the property or person of the employer ; not to employ violence ; not to engage in riot and disorder."
Do you agree with the foregoing quoted statement ?
Father Dunne. I will have to explain to what extent I agree. In general, I may say that I agree. The subject of violence — I don't approve of violence, but, as I said before, issues are at stake and people feel very deeply, and as Congressman Kearns has said, and as Mr. Freeman has said, there are a few things that men feel more deeply concerned about than their jobs, when there are hundreds and thousands of people that are convinced they have been locked out of their jobs, the jobs have been stolen from them.
They are concerned about their security and wives and children. This kind of thing does something to a man, when he sees people walking in to take his job away from him. He may lose his temper when people are trying to walk through picket lines, and tempers will flare up and fights ensue.
The cause of this violence is the injustice that lies behind the deprivation of the people of their jobs. To this question asked me this mi^ht be said : For the purpose of drawing conclusions out of it, with reference to a concrete situation, that the violence occurred here on the picket line, and this can be established, was by no means limited to one side. Many of the pickets were provoked to attack. This can be proved with motion pictures of the events.
Pickets resorted to violence on occasion, breaking through the picket lines on occasion, and on occasion the police used violence without necessity. This can be demonstrated with motion pictures.