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630 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIOXAL DISPUTES
Mr. McCann. I just want the truth.
Mr. Manxix. I will answer it as truthfully as I can. I was the representative of our company in Hollywood. What was going on in Hollywood, I have discussed with our president — not for instructions, but to advise him — he had to rely on my judgment out here, to make the recommendation for him as to what was to be done.
Surely he approved it. Surely, in the discussions many things may have been said between us that I may have taken — but it was my telephone call, it was my message. It wasn't he to me. I called him. _ I told him what we were going to do. Of course, he approved of it. He knew exactly everything we were going to do every minute. I wouldn't be involved in a situation with the tremendous importance this was v/ithout advising him. I Yr«)uld have been remiss in my duties if I didn't tell him.
I didn't only tell him, but I told Mr. ]\Iayer and everyone else. But the responsibility of acting was mine. The res])onsibi]ity of the results was his.
Mr. McCanx. All right. Now, who is your president?
Mr. Mannix. Mr. Nicholas Schenck.
Mr. McCanx. Mr. Mannix, I work under the chairman. I consult with him. He renders the final judgment here. I am just counsel for the committee, and I think I understand your problem. But I want to ask you this : The other members of that board who were sitting around and who acted exactly as you acted at the same time you acted, were they acting as individuals or were they acting under the orders of their presidents from New York ?
Mr. Mannix. I think at these meetings they were all acting as individuals.
Mr. McCann. And yet you think they did consult with the presidents of their organizations, as you did in New York, and received clearance from them before they took this momentous step?
Mr. Mannix. I don't think we could have anticipated and asked for an approval before. We had to formulate a plan and the action against us formulated a plan we had. We wanted the studios open. We didn't want any strike. The strike wasn't by the choosing of the producers.
We pleaded with them, both sides, to keep the studios open. We pleaded with them on the directive, to operate under it. It was no advantage for us. An employer gets none of the best of strikes. How can we get any of the best of it ?
Mr. McCann. Did you, before you took your step, consult with Mr. Walsh of the lATSE?
Mr. Mannix. Oh, there is every reason in the world why I should have told him what it looked like, what was going to happen.
Mr. McCann. Did he tell you that when you let the carpenters go and the painters go he would fill those places ?
Mr. Mannix. He said he would do everything he could to keep the
studios open.
Mr. McCann. And so we have this : Two or three days before the meeting, or before the 23d day of September, there Avas a conference at which the members of the labor committee arrived at an agreement that it would be necessary for them to assign the members of local 946 to hot sets.