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650 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES
Mr. McCausland. Yes.
Mr. McCann. How many carpenters did you let go ?
Mr. McCausland. I would say approximately 75 or 80.
Mr. McCann. And how many painters did you let go?
Mr. McCausland. About 30 or 40.
Mr. McCann. Now, did you have an understanding with the lATSE that thej^ were to furnish men immediately to carry on with this work ?
Mr. McCausland. I didn't have any understanding, but I understood that as soon as these men stopped doing the work, we assigned the set directors to do the work.
Mr. McCann. You had that understanding, and from whom did you get that understanding ?
Mr. McCausland. I am not sure. I imagine it came from INIr. Work.
Mr. McCann. Mr. Work gave you the orders in the first place, and Mr. Work instructed you then that as these men left vou were to assign lATSE men to do that Avork?
Mr. Kearns. Mr. Counsel, Mr. McCausland here, I think, is public relations man, more tlian a production man. Isn't that right ?
Mr. McCausl/\nd. Labor relations and personnel.
Mr. Keakns. Doesn't the production manager get more of this than you do ?
Mr. McCausland. The production manager was in on the meetings, too.
Mr. Kearns. He knows more about it than you do ?
j\Ir. McCausland. Oh, yes.
Mr. ISIcCann. They say Mr. Walsh is out of town.
Mr. Kearns. Get him in town.
Mr. McCann. Mr. Work, rather.
Mr. Price. He is no longer with the studios.
Mr. McCausluVNd. He is no longer with the studios.
Mr. McCann. Do you know where he is ?
Mr. McCausland. I don't know. He lives out here.
Mr. McCann. We would like to have him located if possible. We will have Mr. Work here. Are there any further questions of this gentleman ?
Mr. Kearns. Who is the managing head of Universal here now ?
Mv. McCausland. Mr. William Goetz.
Mr. Kearns. We better have him drop in, too.
Mr. McCann. All right. By Mr. Cobb: Did the carpenters leave the lot voluntarily or were the} told to get off the lot ?
Mr. McCausland. They left the lot voluntarily.
Mr. McCann. But weren't they instructed to get off when they were paid?.
Mr. McCausland. They were told to leave the premises for refusing to perform work.
Mr. McCann. Do you have a record of the replacements that took theii' jobs?
Mr. McCausland. I imagine our pay roll records would show that, sir.
Mr. McCann. Do these records show their social security numbers and where issued?
Mr. McCausland. Every man's record shows his social security number.