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654 MOTIOX-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES
Mr. FousE. I believe so.
Mr. McCann. Who was the secretary? I Troiiki like to have the minutes produced of all of the meetings
Mr. Kearns. September 11.
Mr. McCann. September 11 meeting. Minutes were kept, you say?
Mr. FousE. To the best of my knowledge ; yes.
Mr. McCann. We should like to have the minutes of that meeting and of all of the other meetings that were held up to the 23d.
Mr. Price. Up to the 2od, you say ?
•INIr. McCann. Yes. Was there a court reporter present at these meetings?
Mr. FousE. No.
Mr. McCann. Was there a secretary who addressed the chair and who made minutes while vou were there ?
Mr. FousE. Mr. Clarke!^
Mr. JNIcCann. Mr. Vic Clarke is present, is he not?
Mr. Price, No.
Mr. McCann. Now, will you tell us when it was decided on unified action with respect to the carpenters and painters '.
Mr. Fouse. There was discussion about the policy to be pursued. As Mr. Mannix brought out, it Avas a round table discussion entered into by everybody. What came out of that was a policy that we deemed advisable to pursue. I took that policy back to my principals and conveyed it to them. AVe in turn held a meeting and conference on it and decided that at such a time tiiat we got up to that type of work Avhere the trim had to be put on the set, we would have caipenters do it.
Mr. McCann. And you all seemed to have reached the same situation on the 23d of September, didn't j^ou I
Mr. Fouse. I believe ours was around the 25th.
Mr. McCann. Around the 25th, and were all of your carpenters — did 3''ou instruct the gentleman who just left the stand, your labor relations manager, to call in all of the carpenters and assign them to a hot set ?
Mr. FousE. I am the labor relations manager.
Mr. McCann. I am sorry, sir. What was the name of the gentleman who just left the stand?
Mr. P'ousE. Mr. VanKeuren.
Mr. McCann. Did you instruct him that he was to assign the carpenters to the hot sets I
Mr. FouSE. I advised him as to Avhat the policy was that we decided to pursue. We, in turn, came out with the decision collectively that we would do that.
Mr. McCann. And you so informed him as his superior, and it was done ?
Mr. FousE. He is my superior.
Mr. MgCann. I am sorry. I am getting you gentlemen mixed up. I thought that the superior went to the conference. You advised him and he gave the orders?
Mr. Fouse. That is right.
Mr. McCann. I am glad to get you men straightened out. It will save me a lot of worry. I think that is all I have to ask, sir.