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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 677
TESTIMONY OF HERMAN A. DARSTEIN, BUSINESS MANAGER, PINE-THOMAS PRODUCTIONS, LOS ANGELES, CALIF.
Mr. McCaxx. Have you given your name and address to the reporter ?
Mr. Darsteix. I testified here before.
Mr. McCaxx. I know, but not durmg this hearing.
Mr. Darsteix. No, sir.
Mr. McCaxx. Let's have your name and your address, please, sir.
Mr. Darsteix. Herman A. Darstein. 359 Huntley Drive.
Mr. McCaxx. And what is your telephone number, sir ?
Mr, Darsteix. Crestview 6-4976.
Mr. INIcCaxx. Bv whom are you employed and in what capacity?
Mr. Darsteix. Pine-Thomas Productions ; business manager.
Mr. McCaxx. How long have you held that position ?
Mr. Darsteix. Twelve years,
Mr. McCaxx, Did you have any problems in your particular plant as a result of the September 23, 194:6, lay-off?
Mr, Darsteix. We had no difficulty until some time about 6 months
ago,
Mr. McCaxx. You were not a member of the Motion Picture Producers Association ?
Mr. Darsteix, No, Our problem is a little different. We are an independent company.
Mr, McCaxx, Tell us about your problem and when it arose and what took place,
Mr, Darsteix, Well, until about 6 months ago we operated with both carpenters, painters, and set erectors, at which tune we received a call from the lA set erectors ; I believe it was Mr, Hansford.
Mr. McCaxx, Who is Mr, Hansford ?
Mr. Darsteix, Mr, Hansford is the business agent, I understand,
Mr, McCaxx, Of what organization ; of the set erectors ?
Mr, Darsteix, Set erectors.
Mr. McCaxx. All right.
Mr. Darsteix, At which time he stated in the future we could not use carpenters or painters, that we would have to employ all lA help,
Mr, McCaxx, Did you have a contract at that time with the lA?
Mr, Darsteix, No ; we did not,
Mr, McCaxx. Did you have a contract with the carpenters and painters ?
Mr. Darsteix, We did not.
Mr. McCaxx. You were an open shop, insofar as employment was concerned ?
Mr. Darsteix. Well, no. I would say in the independent field we more or less followed whatever the major studios would do ; we would follow suit.
Mr. McCaxx. You had no contract ?
Mr. Darsteix. We did not at that time ; no.
Mr. McCaxx. Have you made a contract since ?
Mr. Darsteix, Yes ; we have,
Mr. McCaxx. When did you make a contract?
Mr, Darsteix, I don't recall the exact date, but it was sometime during August.