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872 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES
Mr. McCann. I have understood from management that they have been forced to hire these so-called superintendents and they never do any work; they give them an office and a desk. They don't fit into the production picture.
Mr. Walsh. If there are any such men forced on by the lATSE or any representative of the lATSE I will remove them.
Mr. Kearns. You don't know about it as president?
Mr. Walsh. No. If it is in existence I will remove them. I don't think he should be there and have a desk and do no work.
]Mr. Kearns. I don't either.
Mr. McCann. I think that is a very important point and it should be publicized fully to the independent studios that that is a fact. I believe Mr. Walsh will keep his word on it.
Do you respect the July 2, 194G, bargaining contract between the producers and the carpenters and other AFL crafts in the Conference of Studio Unions ?
Mr. Walsh. I don't know of any contract that is in existence between them. From the data I can obtain I think that contract has been so badly broken on both sides it is a question whether there is a contract there or not.
Mr. McCann. Well, Mr. Chairman, I was requested to ask him the fjuestion. Does he respect it? He stated he doesn't even know whether there is one.
Mr. Kearns. I think Mr. Walsh has the ripht to evaluate whether the contract would be in existence or not. Maybe it would be up to law^yers really in the end to decide.
Mr. McCann. I think really it is a question for the courts to determine, not a question for the witness. That is my judgment.
Mr. Kearns. He didn't close the door. He would try not to have it be in effect.
Mr. McCann. If the court finds it is a contract, you will respect it, won't you ?
Mr. Walsh. You can be assured of that.
Mr. McCann. I think that is probably the better way to put it. How do you account for the practice now in use to force as many set erectors on the pay roll of the independent studios ? That is one question, so I will stop thei-e.
Mr. Walsh. I don't know. I think you would be in a better position to ask that question of INIr, Brewer, when he is on the stand. I am not forcing — and if I catch him forcing any he better watch out. I want yon to thoroughly understand we don't want people paid for not working. And we dou't think they should stand around looking at themselves.
If we are forcing people onto any independent studio and those men are not working we will see they are removed. We won't force them on them.
Mr. McCann. Do you believe that independent studios have the right to run their business without interference from the lATSE, when there is no strike or picket line ?
Mr. Walsh. I don't think the lATSE has been interfering with the independent studios.
Mr. INIcCann. Then you would certainly agree they do liave the right, if they haven't any strike or picket line, to run their affairs without interference ?