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874 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES
That will at least give us the right under the act to file. I think everybody should file that, at least that Communist affidavit.
Mr. Kearns. It is mandatory.
Mr. JNIcCann. In the present controversy, is the present controversy a jurisdictional dispute between AFL unions or a dispute between the carpenters and the producers over their rights and .obligations under the July 2, 1946, collective-bargaining contract?
Mr. Walsh. Well, it is quite a complicated question. I can answer it by saying this dispute is a dispute between the unions. I don't know where the producers enter into the dispute at all.
This dispute was created by the carpenters union over their reluctance to abide by the decision. The producer has absolutely nothing to do with it, outside of the fact he wants to make pictures; that is all.
JSIr. McCann. How many carpenters were replaced by the December directive ?
Mr. Walsh. I think the record has the approximate number in there ; at least a dozen times.
Mr. MgCann. Mr. Chairman, I am just giving him a chance to answer these. AVas Mr. Brewer correct in informing Mr. Flanagan that 2,000 men, including carpenters and other, were affected?
Mr. Walsh. I think you can ask Mr. Brewer that when he is on the stand.
Mr. McCann. I think you are correct about that. Were the members of your Hollywood unions consulted in September 1946 regarding your decision ?
Mr. Walsh. I think I testified here that we had a meeting with the business agents in September and told them that we were going to try and run the studios if they agreed to it, which they did.
Mr. McCann. The second question. Or regarding your arrangement with the producers.
Mr. Walsh. I don't know what arrangements he is talking about. There have been hundreds of arrangements Avith the producers. What arrangements is he talking about?
Mr. McCann. Now, here is a question. Let me read it again. Were the members of your Hollywood unions consulted regarding your arrangements with the producers in September 1946?
Mr. Walsh. I explained we called the representatives of the unions together here and told them what the circumstances were
Mr. McCann. I recall that testimony, sir.
Mr. Walsh. They agreed.
Mr. McCann. And if I ask you a question that you have answered previously, you may say so. I have a number of them to ask. Did the lA or the producers order the carpenters off the lots on September 23, 1946?
Mr. Walsh. That has been answered by manairement. The lA didn't.
Mr. McCann. Just how did the lA enter into this ?
Mr, Walsh. That has been explained.
Mr, McCann, When you gave local lA charters to carpenters, painters, and set erectors, when you claim all machinists, all mechanical work in the studios, did you ever give charters or otherwise attempt to take over the work of teamsters ?
Mr, Walsh, The answer is "no." Uncle Dan and myself get along very well together.