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892 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES
Mr. Kearns. I made the statement, ]Mr. Counsel, if the lATSE had any reference to influence tliere, I had no ohjection to it, but I personally as chairman
Mv. Levy. Proof of influences.
Mr. McCann. Now, Mr. Chairman, I think we ought to so ahead without interruption from counsel. Let us proceed.
Mr. Levy. I don't think you have been interrupted by counsel. I don't think that this ])rocedure is regular at all.
Mr. Kearns. Please; will you sit down?
Mr. Levy. Yes, I shall.
Mr. Kearns. I made the statement that where there is evidence and proof submitted and testimony, I am very glad to have that proof. However, I am in no way here trying to draw any inference
Mr. Levy. I understand.
Mr. Kearns. This is not a trial. I have repeated that statement. This is an investigation and we are merely getting the testimony on the problems pertaining to labor and where individuals are involved, their names automatically are mentioned, but I as a chairman am not going to put them on trial.
We stand adjourned until 2 o'clock. .
(At 11 : 58 a. m. a recess w^as taken until 2 p. m. of the same day.)
AFl'ERNOON SESSION
Mr. Kearns. The hearing will please come to order. Mr. Counsel, I imagine the witness will proceed.
TESTIMONY OF ROY M. BREWER— (Continued)
Mr. McCann. Proceed, Mr. Brewer.
Mr. Brewe"r. Well, I think I had finished the question which you asked me.
Mr. McCann. Mr. Brewer, we were discussing this morning the two Tinions whose authority was taken from them. Will you proceed in your own way and tell us why these autonomous unions were taken overbythelATSE?
Mr. Brewer. Mr. Chairman, the answer to the question which you have asked me will require me, in my judgment, to go into a rather extensive analysis of the subversive influences that were working in the unions in Hollywood.
Now, I would like to tell that all in one story, if I may. And if I could get the recitation of the facts with respect to this matter, which you want, I would prefer to get that in first and then tell you this whole story of this subversive element which was woi'king among our unions and which, in my judgment, is the real reason why we were required to take over those two local unions.
Mr. KJEARNS. This is purely your opinion, is that right ?
Mr. Brewer. Yes.
Mr. Kearns. All right.
Mr. McCann. I would rather have you do it our way, sir. We would rather cut you loose for your narrative now and as you give your narrative we will have questions suggested and we may interrupt you to ask you some questions.