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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 901
Mr. Brewer. Will you repeat the question, please?
Mr. McCann. Did you consult with the producers labor committee prior to the action which they took on September 23, 1946 ?
Mr. Brewer. I consulted with them, but I did not consult with them about that.
Mr. McCanx. You did not consult with them about that?
Mr. Brewer. I did not.
Mr. McCanx. How many times did you confer with them prior to September 23, 1946?
Mr. Brewer. It has been testified, we were in negotiations at that time •
Mr. McCaxx. Let us not discuss the negotiations. How often did you confer with them after the directive or clarification of the directive came down, with respect to that clarification and the program of the producers ?
Mr. Brewer. To the best of my recollection I discussed it once with them in a meeting and once with Mr. Freeman over the phone.
Mr. McCaxx. Describe this meeting, what was said to you and what you replied.
Mr. Brewer. Well, Mr. Walsh was at the meeting and he did most of the talking. As I recall it, the discussion was that the producers had received this communication from the carpenters that they were going to declare sets hot unless they complied with the interpretation, and they wanted to know what the position of the lATSE was. President Walsh pointed out to them that the clarification was in our opinion illegal, it was a unilateral action, we had not been consulted, we liad not even been notified, and that he would consider it a breach of the agreement if they complied with it.
Mr. McCaxx, Did you get the question which was asked Mr. Walsh from the chairman? May I ask you now whether at that meeting which was on August 22, 1946, I believe, Mr. Walsh said in substance that any company making one single change in the administration of the AFL directive in compliance with the new interpretation will have all work stopped in the studios, exchanges, and theaters?
Mr. Brewer. I don't recall him making such statement. However, I will say that he left no — he did not hesitate to indicate that the lATSE would consider it a violation of our agreement if they complied with the clarification.
Mr. McCaxx. But he made no such threat as that?
Mr. Brewer. Not to my recollection.
Mr. McCaxx. If he had you would recall it?
Mr. Brewer. I certainly think I would.
Mr. McCaxx. So you are of the opinion that he did not make it.
Mr. Brewer. I am of the opinion.
Mr. McCaxx. Now, is that the only meeting that you attended with the producers labor committee?
Mr. Brewer. Well, as I recall ■
Mr. McCaxx. At which Mr. Walsh—
Mr. Brea\'er. That was the only meeting we held in which this particular matter was discussed. Later on I discussed the question over the phone with Mr. Freeman, as to whether or not our men would do the work which these men were walking off of.
Mr. McCaxx. That was after they had walked off of the wofk?
Mr. Brewer. That is after they declared the sets hot, I think.