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1050 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES elusions which are evident on page 2 as yet, and that you still have an open mind about this problem because I believe your conclusions in the third paragraph on page 2 are incorrect. Mr. Kearns. I think I used the term ''indicate." Mr. Johnston. I just heard it, Mr. Chairman, and I may be wrong as to what you said, but I trust that your mind is open on the matter. Mr. Kearns. Mr. Owens, do you have any questions? Mr. Owens. I would rather have counsel proceed first. Mr. Kearns. Mr. Madden, do you wish to ask any questions? Mr. Madden. No questions. Mr. Kearns. Mr. Counsel. Mr. McCann. Mr. Johnston, I believe you were formerly a mem- ber of the American Federation of Labor, were you not ? Mr. Johnston. Yes, the longshoremen's union. Mr. McCann. That was during the days tliat you were going to college, as I remember? Mr. Johnston. That is correct. Mr. McCann. And you called attention to the fact that you had beeii a member of their union when you appeared before the Cincin- nati conference of the American Federation of Labor? Mr. Johnston. That is correct. Mr. McCann. And you urged them to settle their problems within the house of labor ? Mr. Johnston. Correct. I said they could not wash their hands of this one like Pontius Pilate. Mr. McCann. At that time is it not a fact, Mr. Johnston, that you had just become identified with the motion-picture industry ? Mr. Johnston. That is true. Mr. McCann. What was the date on which you became associated with them? Mr. Johnston. September 15, 1945, Mr. McCann. Mr. McCann. And it was in October 1945 that the meeting in Cincinnati was held? Mr. Johnston. Yes; the latter part of October 1945. Mr. McCann. Now, prior to the meeting in Cincinnati I believe that you made a trip to Hollywood and endeavored to secure a settle- ment of the problems there? Mr. Johnston. That is correct. Mr. McCann. Would you mind giving us the date—if you do not mind repeating it, on which the motion-picture producers gave you exclusive authority to settle their labor disputes ? Mr. Johnston. I believe it was October 15, 1945. I am not sure of the exact date but I think that was it. Mr. McCann. Was there a meeting of the producers at which this formal action was taken? Mr. Johnston. That is right. Mr. McCann. Were minutes kept of this meeting? Mr. Johnston. As far as I know there were minutes kept of the meeting. Mr. McCann. Would you furnish the committee with the minutes of the meeting of the producers authorizing you and empowering you to have exclusive authority to settle these disputes ?