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1068 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES Mr. Johnston. Well, that is quite different, Mr. Owens. That is quite a clitFerent program. We have to go to the NLRB which is a long, slow, slow process. In the meantime the picket line forms and you are on strike. Mr. Owens. But a picket line will not form in the 60 days. Mr. Johnston. But it will form immediately thereafter, if NLRB has not rendered a decision. Mr. Owens. It would form immediately after the 10-day provision you were talking about last year, would it not? Mr. Johnston. No ; because if the unions involved could not settle it within 10 days, then it would go to a permanently paid arbitrator chosen by the union and management, who would then settle, and his decision would be binding and final upon all parties involved. There would not be an opportunity for picket lines. Mr. Owens. Well, of course, now you are talking about the fact that in order to succeed you would have to be able to make the con- tract with the unions as to the terms and conditions, because if you were not merely having an arbitration of the terms and conditions you would have to have arbitration as to what the terms and condi- tions would be. Which is it going to be ? Mr. Johnston. I would not have that at all, Mr. Owens, I would not have arbitration as to the terms and conditions of a contract, never. That is compulsory arbitration, which I am opposed to. After a contract has been entered into, after a contract has been made, then I think you should have arbitration as to the terms and conditions of the contract. Mr. Owens. Are you indicating to me that you cannot function through the National Labor Relations Board? Mr. Johnston. I am intimating to you it is impractical to function in the way that we are attempting to function at the present time. I think the law should be amended to have arbitration of the terms and conditions of a contract. Mr. Owens. You have a contract with a certain union to do certain work, or unions, is that true ? Mr. Johnston. That is right. Mr. Owens. And they are arguing with each other as to who has jurisdiction, is that correct? Mr. Johnston. That is right. Mr. Owens. What would there be to prevent you from going to general counsel and asking him to take care of that situation by an injunction? Mr. Johnston. There is nothing to prevent it, under the Taft- Hartley law, except the time involved, the length of time involved in the dispute itself. Mr. Oavens. Well, it would not take very long to solve that prob- lem. That could be solved in 5 days as a temporary proposition, and from that time on it could be solved permanently. Mr. Johnston. But you still have not solved the problem. Mr. Owens. But you have at least stopped the difficulty and have put men back to work. Mr. Johnston. You have stopped the difficulty momentarily, but you have not solved the problem. You can go along with that scheme for a long time, but there would still be conflict, work stoppages,