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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1071 Mr. McCaxx. Do you recall that Walsh and Brewer were present and that the question of negotiation with carpenters were discussed with them? Mr. JoiixsTox. In the meeting which I attended which was on a Sunday—if that is the meeting you referred to in New York—I flew up to the meeting on Sunday—Mr. AValsh and Mr. Brewer were not in the meeting that I attended. I do not believe they w^ere in the meeting at any time during the progress. I think we made some decisions. The meeting was primarily called over a threatened strike on the part of the actors. The meeting was to discuss the actors' con- tract and what terms and provisions it should contain. During the course of the meeting the problem came up of the car- penters. I do not recall the discussion because, as I remember, it was not a very lengthy one. ]Mr. MgCaxx. Do you recall anything about it? I do not recall having read anything in the record on it. Mr.JoHxsTox. Xo, Mr. McCann; I frankly do not. I do not re- member that I said anything at the meeting at all except to introduce the manager—the new manager of labor relations in Hollywood—Mr. Charlie Boren. I introduced him to the group and other than that I do not think I spoke at the whole meeting. There was nothing I had to say. Mr. Walsh and Mr. Brewer were not at that meeting which I attended. Later I think some of the group informed Mr. Walsh and Mr. Brewer that we could enter into no agreements with them in any form, shape, or manner, but I was not present. It was not at the general meeting that that took place. Mr. SIcCaxx. I wonder, sir, if you would furnish me with a copy of those minutes of the meeting of April 5. Mr. JoHxsTox. Yes; if there are any, I would be happy to furnish them. It was not a regular meeting of the board of the Motion Picture Association and I am not sure minutes were kept, but if they were I would be glad to furnish them. Mr. McCaxx. Did you know that the War Labor Board took juris- diction of the dispute between the set decorators and producers and held that b}' the terms of the contract between the society, which the set decorators were then called, and the producers, the producers were legally bound to recognize and deal with the set decorators in their new aihliation? Mr. JoHXSTox. No; I do not think I recall that, Mr. McCann. Mr. McCaxx. You do not recall ? Mr. JoHxsTOx. No. Mr. McCaxx. I believe that has been developed by our record in Hollywood. Mr. JoHXSTOx. Yes; undoubtedly you have the records on that. ^Nlr. McCaxx. Did you know that E. J. Mannix testified that the painters had no jurisdictional problems in Hollywood? Mr. JoHXSTOX. No; I am not familiar with that. Mr. McCaxx. Were not a number of machinists laid off and re- ])laced by members of the lATSE and Teamsters after the directive of the American Federation of Labor for them to go back to work, and after the decision of the three-man committee on December 2(5, ID-io?