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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1077 TESTIMONY OF PAUL DULIZELL, INTERNATIONAL PRESIDENT, ASSOCIATED ACTORS AND ARTISTES OF AMERICA; EXECUTIVE SECRETARY, ACTORS EQUITY ASSOCIATION, NEW YORK, N. Y. (The witness was duly sworn.) Mr. Kearxs. Will you identify yourself, Mr. Dullzell, and then pro- ceed with your statement, if you have one? Mr. McCaxx. ]Mr. Chairman, may 1 ask a few questions before he starts the statement? Mr. Kearx^s. No objection. Mr. jMcCaxx. Mr. Dullzell, have a seat, please. For the purpose of the record I would like for you to give us your name, your address, your telephone number, and the position which you hold. Mr. Dullzell. Paul Dullzell, international president of the Asso- ciated Actors and Artistes of America, 45 West Forty-seventh Street, New York City, telei)hone Bryant 9-3550. Mr. McCaxn. Would you tell us your other position? I think you hold the position of secretary of the four A's. Mr. Dullzell. I am the international president of the four A's and the executive secretary of the Actors Equity Association. Mr. McCax-^x'. Would you explain that to us so we will have it in the record, sir ? Mr. Dullzell. The four A's is the international union and the Ac- tors Equity Association is a branch of the Associated Actors and Artistes of America, but I assumed the presidency of the international, oh, 10 years ago, but I still retain my position as executive secretary of the Actors Equity Association. Mr. McCax'X'. Now the Actors Equity Association is the associa- tion to which all of the legitimate actors belong? INIr. Dullzell. That is right, sir. Mr. McCax'X'. And the Screen Actors Guild, I believe, has a charter from Actors Equity? Mr. Dullzell. No. The Screen Actors Guild has a charter from the Associated Actors and Artistes of America, which is the inter- national bod}". Mr. McCaxx'. What position do you occupy with respect to the Screen Actors Guild? Mr. Dullzell. None whatever. Mr. McCax'X'. Now would you tell me the method by which your organizations have kept out of labor troubles? Would you tell the committee very briefly what your record of labor disputes has been in the past 20 years? I think, Mr. Chairman, you would like to have this in the record. i\fr. Kearxs. Thank you. Mr. Dullzell. The Actors Equity Association has had one strike in its entire history. That strike occurred in 1019. We have many tiuK's been on the verge of a strike but we have never found it necessary to call out our people. We have always found ways and means to arrive at a satisfactory adjustment of our difficulties and ouf contro- versies. Mr. INIcCanx. Is it not true that in all of your contracts you have a provision calling for arbitration in case of disputes?