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1090 MOTION-PICTURE JItRISDICTIONAL DISPUTES that there will be no expression from the carpenters or their counsel impugning a congressional committee or reflecting upon the action of a congressional committee. I thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Kearns. Mr. Counsel. Mr. McCann. Mr. Chairman, the only thing I had in mind saying, and I think it ought to be in the record, is this : The only implication which can be drawn from the chairman's state- ment is that in the state of the record at this time, the evidence indicates that there has been collusion between the lATSE and the producers. I think the chairman of this committee has been extremely generous to advise the producers of the state of the record and afford them an op- portunity to introduce any evidence that they may have which will relieve the chairman of the impression which he now has of that collusion, and that I believe was the purpose of the chairman. Mr. Kearns. Just so it is understood that the chairman has an open mind in the matter we are all ready to proceed. Mr. McCann. Mr. Rathvon will take^the stand. (Mr. Rathvon was dul}' sworn as a witness.) TESTIMONY OF PETER RATHVON, BEVERLY HILLS, CALIF., PRESIDENT, RADIO-KEITH-ORPHEUM CORP. Mr. McCann. Please state your name, your official position, your residence and your telephone number, Mr. Rathvon. Mr. Rathvon. My name is Peter Rathvon. My residence is Bev- erley Hills, Calif. My position is president of Radio-Keith-Orpheum Corp. My telephone number is Hollywood 5911. Mr. McCann. How long have you been the president of RKO Pic- tures, Mr. Rathvon? Mr. Rathvon. I have been president of Radio-Keith-Orpheum Corp., the parent company, for something over 5 years. During that time I was chairman of the board, subsidiary RKO Pictures, but became its president also a couple of years ago. Mr. McCann. Were you present in New York on or about the 12th day of September 1946 at a meeting of the presidents of the Motion Picture Producers ? Mr. Rathvon. I was not. Mr. McCann. Who represented you in the meeting, if anyone? Mr. Rathvon. Mr. Ned E. Depinnet. Mr. McCann. What position does he hold ? Mr. Rathvon. He is vice chairman of the board and vice president. Mr. McCann. Is he president? Mr, Rathvon. No ; he is not. Mr. McCann. I feel that the instructions which I gave to Mr. Zorn and my friend Jack Bryson have not been carried out, in that I re- quested that those who were not prasent have with them someone who was present at the presidents* meeting. Mr. Rathvon. I am president; I was subpenaed as president, and Mr. Depinnet was not. Mr. McCann. Will you please tell us at what meetings of the pro- ducers vou were present ? Mr. R\thvon. I was present at the so-called Easter meeting. Mr. McCann. When was that ?