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1092 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES Mr, McCann. Wlio was your representative in Hollywood on the labor board there? Mr. Rathvon. Leon Goldberg. Mr. McCann. Mr. Goldberg, I believe, testified before our com- mittee in Los Angeles? Mr. Rathvon. I believe so. Mr. McCann. Did he consult with you with respect to the proposed action of the producers to create incidents in the studios by assigning all carpenters on the 23d of September to do carpentry work on sets which were "hot"? Mr. Rathvon. He consulted me about the problem which you are describing in words different than I would describe it. Mr. McCann. Were you informed as the president or as the chair- man of the board of RKO before September 23, 1946, that the labor committee of the producers planned to take concerted action in all of the studios on the 23d of September, by assigning all of the carpenters in the major studios to do carpentry work on "hot" sets that day? Mr. Rathvon. I was consulted on the general problem of what we must do to keep our studios open, which was the policy we had agreed to follow. Our labor representative, like the otliers, took such steps as they were advised l}y counsel they might properly take in order to keep the studios open. Mr. McCann. You were then informed of the action which they contemplated ? ]\Ir. Rathvon. I was informed they contemplated taking such action as they might properly take on advice of counsel in order that we might continue to keep the studios open in the face 'of the problem that had arisen in the conflict between the carpenters and the set erectors. Mr. McCann. Mr. Rathvon, I do not want to quibble on words. You say you were informed that they would take such action as was necessary to keep the studios open, but would you please tell us how much you knew about the proposed incidents of September 23,1946? Mr. Rathvon. I knew what the problem was, and I knew if we were going to keep our studios in operation, we would have to move as incidents arose and take action one way or anther. The actual action taken ns the incidents arose was in the hands of counsel. Mr. jNIcCann. I understand that, sir, but you did know what they planned to do ? Mr. Rathvon. AYhy put those words in my mouth ? I did not say that, sir. Mr. McCann. I am asking you if you knew. Mr. Rathvon. I knew as incidents arose our labor men would take such steps as counsel advised them was proper in order to meet those incidents. Mr. McCann. "W^iat incidents are you referring to ? Mr. Rathvon. Any incidents involving "hot" sets, no matter how they miffht arise. Mr. McCann. Now, may I ask you definitely once more this question: Were you informed by Mr. Goldberg, or anyone else, that the labor committee of the producers would take concerted action on the 2?<d of September bv assigning carpenters to work on "hot" sets and that if the carpenters did not work on them they would be told to take their tools and get off the lots ?