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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1097 Mr. McCann. I am not putting the words in your mouth, sir, and I do not intend to. Mr. Ratiivon. Please don't. Mr. McCann. I am asking if you have an independent recollec- tion of these statements. That is all I am trying to get at. Mr. Ratiivon. Which are Mr. Montgomery's statements in Mr, Brewer's mouth? Mr. McCann. They are statements reported to the meeting there by Mr. Brewer. I am trying to see if you recall that. Mr. Ratiivon. I recall Mr. Goldberg giving me his account of that meeting. Mr. McCann. Do you recall Mr. Goldberg telling you that Beck, of the teamsters, has said he would send in help if needed? Mr. Ratiivon. I do not recall that. Mr. McCann. Do you recall Mr. Goldberg reporting to you that Brewer said at this meeting of the producers: To put lA men on sets so carpenters and painters would quit, provided, (1) lA is advised in advance wlien and where; (2) put on enough set erectors and painters in a group for self-protection; (3) keep procedure quiet so CSU cannot gang up at one spot. Mr. Ratiivon. No. Mr. McCann. You do not recall any of this? Mr. Ratiivon. No. Mr. McCann. Do you recall whether or not at the meeting on Sep- tember 17 of the Producers Labor Committee, in 19-16, of course, those present were cautioned "to see that the Thursday program is not made known outside of a very few of your personnel" ? Mr. Ratiivon. You ask that as though I were present at the meeting. Mr. McCann. I asked if you recall hearing that. I do not ask if you recall hearing it at the meeting; I asked if you recall hearing a report to that effect from Mr. Goldberg. Mr. Rathvon. No. Mr. McCann. I do not recall whether I asked you or not, but do you recall that Mr. Goldberg reported to you that Mr. Wright—• and I understand he was counsel for some of the companies—was he your counsel ? jSIr. Rathvon. No. Mr. McCann (reading) : Thinks that we should not act in concert. It was suggested to notify the carpenters and painters of our intention to keep sets moving. See letters to painters and telegram to carpenters dated September 17, 1946. Were you informed of jNIr. Wright's views on that matter ? Mr. Ratiivon. Possibly. I do not recall. Mr. McCann. On September 20, 1946, INIr. Goldberg attended a meeting of RKO as a representative of the Producers Labor Commit- tee. In the minutes which I hold in my hand it is stated : Deadline by 9 a. m., Monday,, clear out all carpenters first and then clear* out all painters, following which procedure to put on lA men to do the work. Do you recall whether Mr. Goldberg advised you of that anticipated step? Mr. Rathvon. Please permit me to say again that I think Mr. Gold- berg gave me adequate reports of those meetings. I cannot recall,