Jurisdictional disputes in the motion-picture Industry : hearings before a special subcommittee of the Committee on Education and Labor, House of Representatives, Eightieth Congress, first-session, pursuant to H. Res. 111 (1948)

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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1107 Mr. Ratiivon. That is rii^ht. They would hand down this decree. It was agreed by Mr. Walsh of the lA, Mr. Hutcheson of the car- penters and for all producers by Mr. Johnston, that we would abide by this decision, INIr, Owens. That is just about the same decision Mr. Johnston mentioned this morning by having arbitration and having this agree- ment to abide by it. ]Mr. Rathvox. Nobody can be a party to such an agreement and be in a strong position if another party to the agreement after a de- cision is handed down, which had been agreed to in advance says, "That isn't fair, and I am not going to go along.'" That is what Mr. Hutcheson did. Mr. Owens. What is this clarification that the chairman just spoke about? What would you need clarification of something Mr. Rathvon. I think it is a very interesting point. Mr. Kearks. That was the directive that was handed down. Mr. Rathvon (reading) : All parties concerned, that is, the lATSE, Motion Picture Machine Operators, Carpenters and Joiners, Plumbers— all the unions, paperhangers, everybody who is involved in this studio here— to accept as final and binding such decisions and determinations as the executive council committee of three may finally render. That is the exact statement. Mr. Owens. That is exactly what Mr. Johnston wanted in the agreement ? Mr. Rathvon. That is exactly what he wanted. Now, the three came to Hollywood. They pursued their investigation in such manner as they thought proper. Mr. Johnston testified it was not his position to try to direct their thinking. They came up with a decision. That decision Mr. Hutcheson said was an unfair decision. ]Mr. Owens. Unfair ? Mr; Rathvon. He said it was unfair and he was never willing that his people should abide by it. Mr. Owens. There is a difference between unfair and ambiguous. Mr. Rathvon. I do not want to put the wrong words in his mouth. He would not abide by it for reasons he felt were sufficient. Mr. Owens. It looks as though we are going to have to have Mr. Hutcheson here. It appears to me, as a member of the full committee— and not a member of the subcommittee—who will eventually have to pass upon this matter, that before we can say there is a conspiracy if there has been a contract and one party has failed to live up to that contract ]\[r. Rathvon. You perhaps know, sir, there were hearings of this subcommittee in Hollywood for a number of weeks at which Mr. Hutcheson did not attend. He is not available at these hearings. Mr. Owens. Has Mr. Hutcheson testified before the committee or the subconnnittee ? Mr. Rathvon. He has not, sir. Mr. Owens. The man who failed to abide by this agreement? Mr. Rathvon. That is correct, sir. Mr. Owens. Inasmuch as Mr. Hutcheson appeared before us last year and indicated he did not have much respect for laws, and pre-