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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1133 Mr. McCann. Well, it is not exactly complete, Mr. Chairman. I think for the sake of the record, if you do not mind, I would like to offer the Chicago minutes that I have here to Mr. Zorn, to Mr. Cobb, and to Mr. Levy to look over, and if it is the desire of either of them that this should be made a part of the record, I would like for them to 80 notify me. Mr. Kearns. No objection. At this time I would like to have Mr. Kahane take the stand. (The witness was duly sworn.) TESTIMONY OF B. B. KAHANE, VICE PRESIDENT, COLUMBIA PICTURES CORP., LOS ANGELES, CALIF.—Recalled Mr. Kearns. Mr. Kahane, before counsel brings up any of the ques- tions herein with respect to the Miami meeting, and other phases of the strike, there is one point I want to clear up, so far as you are con- cerned, with respect to the Los Angeles investigation. You have more or less been the spokesman for industry out there. I would like a restatement in the record of the thought that was de- veloped here by Mr. Johnston yesterday, that after the decision was handed down by the three-man committee and the producers had all agreed to accept that decision once they made it, then it meant that you, the producers, were forced by the directive of the three-man committee to take men off work which, as has been brought out in the testimony here, was historically theirs and which they had been doing for 20 years, such as the carpenters, or any others, and assign that to the set erectors, which was made mandatory by the directive of the three-man committee. That made a transition in your plans of operation, a transition of employees which you complied with be- cause of the directive. Isn't that correct ? Mr. Kahane. That is correct. Mr. Kearns. That was costly to the industry; is that correct ? Mr. Kahane. It was a little more difficult to handle operations that way because theretofore—I don't know if it was for 20 years, but for a number of years JMr. Kj^arns. Let us say historically. Mr. Kahane. Yes. Theretofore the sets were all constructed by carpenters. From that point on the carpenters would erect all sets in mills, but if we decided to build a set on a stage, a sound stage, that work had to be given to the lATSE. Mr. Kearns. But the carpenters still did the millwork and trim? Mr. Kahane. Yes, sir. Mr. Kearns. I wanted to get that clear for the record right now that you did not in any way, by your own suggestion or by your own direction as vice president of your company or of the other companies, as I noticed from the testimony, make this decision, that was following out the directive of the three-man committee ? Mr. Kahane. That is correct. We scrupulously followed out the three-man directive. Mr. Kearns. Mr. Counsel, do you have any questions on the Miami meeting that you want to question Mr. Kahane about ? Mr. McCann. Yes, sir. I want to question him about two or three otlier things, Mr. Chairman, which, from reading his testimony very carefully several times, have occurred to me. 67383—48—vol. 2- 7