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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1135 Mr. INIcCann. So that did not have any effect? Mr. Kahane. No, sir. Mr. McCann. Well, that is fine. Now, is it not a fact that under the decision of the three-man committee, functions previously per- formed by the carpenters and by the <2:rips were given to the lATSE and the lATSE created a new union known as the set erectors to take over those functions ? Mr. Kaiiane. That is correct, as a result of the directive and after the directive'was put into effect. Mr. McCann. I wanted to get that clear in the record. Mr. Chairman, you must be a little patient with me. I have many pages marked that I would like to check with him. In your jirevious testimony you made some statements to which I will refer for the benefit of the other members of the committee who did not hear your testimony. I would recommended to anyone who is interested a very thorough examination of your testimony, which I have read several times. I am quoting the following from your previous testimony. I mislit parenthetically observe that the award of this work to the lATSE changed the practice which had been going on in the studios for many years with respect to set construction. That is correct, is it not ? Mr. Kaiiane. That is correct; approximately for 15 years or so. Mr. McCann. Some people testified as much as 20 years. Mr. Kaiiane. We had open shop in Hollywood from 1926 to 1933, and I think during that period there was a question about the work being done by carpenters in all studios. Mr. McCann. Now, you made this statement, Mr. Kahane. and I think it is rather interesting because you heard what was said in the Miami meeting by Mr. Hutcheson with respect to the 1926 agreement. Mr. Kaiiane. Yes, sir. Mr. ]\IcCann. I want to read two or three statements I have marked here, which you gave in your testimony. May I read just three or four questions to bring it out: They knew that the work had been done by the carpenters for 15 or 20 years? Yes, sir. And they were turning it over now to the lATSE group? That is right. Who had never done it? They were adopting the creation of work dated by an agreement back in 1926 when there was no rancor and there was no feuding? Mr. Kaiiane. That is correct. Mr. JNIcCann. That was your statement? Mr. Kahane. Yes, sir; and I take it right from the directive itself. In the directive they said when they came to handle this jurisdictional problem they found there were a number of approaches to it. They outlined three. The third of the three was to have reference to the agreements that were made between these now rival unions at a time when there was a friendly, cooperative spirit among them. I read from that directive. They say: After careful and thorough study the committee unanimously agreed that the latter plan is unquestionably the best method of approach. It is the committee's considered opinion that such procedure affords the only plausible solution to a most difficult and complex problem.