Jurisdictional disputes in the motion-picture Industry : hearings before a special subcommittee of the Committee on Education and Labor, House of Representatives, Eightieth Congress, first-session, pursuant to H. Res. 111 (1948)

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1138 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES oath in Hollywood; that it was not until sometime later, or several months later—and you will recall his testimony, Mr. Kaliane—that he ascertained the 1926 agreement had never been in effect. Mr. Owens, Are we trying to review the directive of this com- mittee ? Mr. McCann. Mr. Owens, we are trying to get at the facts and what was the background for the issuance of this particular order or direc- tive which constitutes the basis of the jurisdictional strife in Holly- wood and its subsequent interpretation. Mr. Owens. I think it would be better if we get at the background of why they changed their directive. Mr. McCann. We are going to get at that, sir. If you please, sir, we have already had the testimony of Mr. Doherty on that out there, and the testimony of numerous witnesses on it. But here we were calling the presidents together and the gentlemen from Hollywood representing the companies, in order to check on their participation as presidents. Now, it just happens Mr. Kahane has to leave town. A review of his testimony has brought up two or three questions. I would like to clear up those questions. If there is no objection, I will proceed. Mr. Levy. Mr. Chairman, Mr. McCann stated no one has contra- dicted Mr. Doherty's statement in Los Angeles. I think the record should state that Mr. Doherty testified some time before Mr. Walsh and "Sir. Brewer testified in Los Angeles, and Mr. McCann never asked Mr. Walsh or Mr. Brewer any question about the matter about which he is now speaking. I have personally read the entire record in Los Angeles and I per- sonally participated in the latter part of the hearings. Since Mr. Walsh and Mr. Brewer were there no question whatsoever was sub- mitted to the lATSE on this matter. As a matter of fact, the lATSE testimony was stopped in the middle, as you know, because efforts were made to adjust the strike at that time. Mr. Kearns. Mr. Levy, Mr. Walsh will have that opportunity. Mr. Levy. Mr. Walsh is present pursuant to your invitation. Mr. Kearns. That is right, sir. Mr. Cobb. Mr. Chairman, may I make a statement for Mr. Owens? We will show that the December 26,1915, a^ard was both ambiguous and procured by fraud. Mr. Levy. The place to show that, Mr. Chairman, is in the $13,000,- 000 suit which Mr. Cobb has brought in Los Angeles and this com- mittee ought not to be used for that purpose. Mr. Kearns. That is right. We are not using any of that informa- tion whatsoever. We have ruled it out once, and it is still ruled out. Mr. ZoRN. Mr. Chairman, I do not want to enter the argument; I just want to point out a fact on the record for Mr. Owens. Mr. McCann read this morning in complete detail from the minutes of the Miami meeting. My recollection is very clear on that. Those minutes show that whether or not this committee knew about this sit- uation before, they clearly had all the facts before them in January of 1916, within a month after they had made their award, and they said they were going to stand by and would not permit any change or alteration of their award. That was read this morning. Mr. Kearns. Yet they also admitted in Hollywood they did n'ot even have time to read the important documents and everything else