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motion-picturp: jurisdictional disputes 1183 in danger, where sabotuj^e and all other things that can take place where there is a problem of conflict between nnions—Mr. Kahane said we decided onr best interest was to protect onr property, to keep our studios all open, and based upon that and other things we decided that was the best plan to follow. Mr. McCann. Mr. Chairman, the third question has been with- drawn by Mr. Bodle, and that completes his questions. Mr. Cobb. I have one other question. Mr. McCann. Two other qiiestions by Mr. Cobb. Were you present at the labor committee meeting of September 16, 1946? Mr. Freeman. Mr. I^IcCann. I told you a little while ago I cannot remember dates. If you have the minutes which show that I was there then I was there. Mr. McCann. The minutes show you were present. Mr. Freeman. Then I was. You and I disagree. I call them notes and you call them minutes. Mr. McCann. Was it then agreed as stated in the minutes, to say to the State unemployment authorities that the employees left their work on account of a trade dispute ? Mr. Freeman. I do not recall. Mr. McCann. Do you recall that being discussed ? Mr. Freeman. I do not, sir. Mr. McCann. You have no independent recollection at all of the action taken by the labor committee with respect to unemployment insurance? Mr. Freeman. I do not, Mr. McCann. Mr. McCann. There is no use in asking your last question, then Mr. Cobb. That is all, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Kearns. Mr. Freeman, for your benefit, when you refer to the notes, Mr. Benjamin, one of the attorneys for the industry, on the witness stand called them minutes. I recall very plainly telling him for the record we would rather refer to them as notes also. That is all, sir. Mr. Freeman. Will you want me here? Mr. Kearns. As long as you leave Mr. Boren here. Mr. Freeman. He will be here, sir. Mr. Kearns. Mr. Michel. (Mr. Michel was duly sworn as a witness.) TESTIMONY OF WILLIAM C. MICHEL, EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT, TWENTIETH CENTURY-EOX FILM CORP., NEW YORK, N. Y. Mr. Kearns. Will you have a seat? Counsel will identify the witness. Mr. McCann. Mr. Michel, will you state your name, your address, and your telephone number? Mr. Michel. My name is William C. Michel, M-i-c-h-e-1, no "a" in it. I live at 239 Central Park West, New York City. My tele- phone number there is Trafalgar 7-8785. My telephone number in New York, business address, is Columbus 5-3320.