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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1189 Compulsory arbitration o-ets around to the old Hitler and Musso- lini stuff where they try to tell you what to do and I don't think that is good. ■ Mr. Kearns. Can you tell me in the movie industry out there, where you have 42 unions working, how you are ever going to elim- inate stoppage and keep production at a good level there, unless you have somebody who acts as arbitrator: Where there is no work stoppage until after a decision has been handed down in the thin margin of jurisdictional disputes you have there'^ Mr. Michel. Yes, but after this arbitrator makes the decision Mr. Kearns. Oh, they will bury him, Mr. MiCHEiv. Who is that fellow? God didn't create him yet. That is the thing that worries me. That would be the way to do it, to get them all to agree. Then you are accomplishing something. If they won't agree, here is a directive handed down. Bill Hutche- son don't like it. I have had a lot of dealings with him. I like Bill. I am surprised at Bill. I will be frank with you. I found that fellow, by God, a real fine fellow. When I see what's going on here I can't understand it. Whether it is age, or what it is, I don't know. He's not the Bill Hutcheson I knew that would sit behind the table and demand his pound of flesh, yes, demand his rights, but in the end you had a deal. If he said you had a deal, you didn't give a rap whether you wrote it up 3 months later or 6 months later, it didn't make any difference, you had a deal. I can't miderstand what has gone on. I haven't talked to him since that time. He was a great admirer of Sidney Kent, and that was why I was close to him. Maybe if Sidney Kent had lived, if God had spared him, maybe he could have worked on Bill. I don't know. Sidney was a great fellow. He had a lot of strength with all these gentlemen and we did have a lot of labor peace while Sidney Kent was living. I will say that, I think every one of these gentle- men would say so. Mr, Kearns. Do you have any questions? Mr. McCann. Yes; I have some more questions, Mr. Chairman. Are you an officer of the Fox West Coast Theaters Corp. ? Mr. Michel. I am an officer of National Theaters Amusement and National Theaters Corp., which are the top companies of the West Coast Theaters. The West Coast Theaters are a subsidiary; Twentieth Century-Fox owns all the stock of those companies. Mr. McCann. Did you know Mr. Tuohy in Hollywood? Mr. Michel. Yes. I^Ir. JMcCann. At the time of this September incident which took place out there, Joseph P. Tuohy was the representative of the team- sters in Hollywood, was he not? Mr. Michel. I think he was; yes. Mr. McCann. Was it Mr. Tuohy who advised the Labor Board in Hollywood that the teamsters would go through the picket line ? JSIr. Michel. I don't know. I was not there. Mr, McCann, Are you familiar with the signature of Mr, Spyros Skouras ? Mr, Michel, Yes, sir. Mr, McCann. Is that his signature ?