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1196 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES and other officers of the lATSE appeared before the producers labor committee, and at which time it is reported in the minutes of that meeting, "Walsh advises that any company that makes one single change in the administration of the AFL directive in compliance with the new interpretation will have all work stopped in the studios, exchanges, and theaters." Did your Mr. MacDonald report to you Mr. Walsh's presence at the labor committee and his statement made to them ? Mr. Yates. No ; he did not. He would report that to Mr. Wilson. Mr. McCann. Who is Mr. Wilson ? Mr. Yates. Vice president in charge of studio operations. Mr. McCann. You were not consulted with respect to the operations of the labor committee there ? Mr. Yates. Only when it came time to make a decision. Mr. McCann. So you were not advised by Mr. MacDonald of that statement by Mr. Walsh ? Mr. Yates. No ; he would report that to Mr. Wilson. Mr. McCann. Nor were you advised by Mr. Wilson, the gentleman in charge of your production there ? Mr. Yates. Not as you stated; no. Mr. McCann. What were you advised by Mr. Wilson ? Mr. Yates. Well, he would simply tell me progress was being made and the threat of a strike, without going into too much detail. Mr. McCann. What I am driving at now is, did he inform you with respect to the meeting of September 12,1946, that j\Ir. Walsh had been before the labor conunittee and had stated that if you put into effect the clarification of the directive, ^'We will stop all production, distri- bution, and showing of motion pictures" ? Mr. Yates. I have no recollection of any such statement being made to me. Mr. McCann. Do you have any recollection of the incident inde- pendently ? Mr. Yates, Well, from time to time, naturally, Mr. Wilson would discuss these matters with me. Usually I did not pay too much atten- tion to it. I knew nothing about labor relations. I devote no time to it. We usually follow any pattern that is laid down between the unions and the larger companies. That is our policy, and I do not waste m.uch time talking about such matters. Mr. McCann. You are, though, a member of the larger-companies association ? ., Mr. Yates. Pardon? Mr. McCann, Republic Pictures organization is a member of the producers' labor committee and is a member of the Motion Picture Producers' Association ? Mr. Yates. Republic is a member; yes. .^ Mr. McCann. That is what I mean. Mr. Yates. Yes. Mr. McCann. You are rated as one of the larger companies in the production of motion pictures? Mr. Yates. Well, we might be so rated, but we are the smallest. Mr. McCann, You might be the smallest of the greatest, but you are rated in this association as one of the great. Mr. Yates. Well, yes.