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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1197 Mr. McCann. That is what I am trying to clarify, Mr. Yates. Yes: I see. Mr. McCaxn. At a subsequent meeting of the producers' labor committee on September 11, Mr. Cambiano came before the producers' labor connnittee. Were you informed of the ultimatum which was issued that day? Mr. Yates. I have no recollection of it. Mr. McCann. Were you advised by Mr. Wilson or by Mr. Mac- Donald, your representative on the labor committee, of the plan which was made by the producers' labor committee to create incidents on 8e])teuiber i53, 1946, by asking all of the carpenters that remained in the studios to work on sets which they had declared to be "hot," and that the carpenters were to be removed from their jobs if they did not work on those sets ? Mr. Yates. I cannot recollect that Mr. Wilson talked to me or dis- cussed that matter with me at all, although he might have. You, of course, understand that I spend only part of my time at the studio. I leave management, and especially labor relations, to Mr. Wilson and Mr. MacDonald. Mr. McCann. You have entrusted them with full authority and your board has to deal with labor-relations problems? Mr. Yates. We have. Mr. McCann. I think that is all, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Kearns. Mr. Yates, were you here when Mr. Johnston testi- fied? Mr, Yates. No ; I was not. Mr. Kearns. Have you ever heard, or do you have any opinion your- self that Mr. Hutcheson has ever been unreasonable in his demands in the labor situation in the motion-picture industry? Mr. Yates. No; I have had no discussion of that sort with any- body. Mr. Kearns. Were you at any meeting where it was decided that in order to keep the studios open you would condone with one of tiie unions in order to keep production going ? Mr. Yates. I attended no meeting, and I at not time heard of any such conversation. Mr. Kearns. I take it from your testimony you would not be quali- fied to make any recommendations as to legislation to cope with juris- dictional disputes? Mr. Yates. Except to eliminate them. Mr. Kearns. Would you recommend legislation for that? Mr. Yates. I certainly would. Mr. Kearns. Along the type that Mr. Johnston recommended? 1 suppose you read his testimony. Mr. Yates. I am not familiar with what Mr. Johnston recom- mended, but I do know as long as we have 48 unions to contend with, split into two groups, there is going to be trouble always unless some law is enacted that will stop it. These matters come up almost daily. Mr. Kearns. You would rather have it of a voluntary nature, thougli. would you not? Mr. Yates. I certaiidy would. Mr. Kearns. Therefore, you would not go so far as to make it a compulsory matter? 67383—48—vol. 2 11