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1202 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES Mr. Perkins. I don't know. Mr. McCann. You don't know ? Mr. Peekins. No, sir. My guess would be that he would report not to New York, but probably to Mr. Herbert Freston, if Mr. Freston were not at the meetings. If Mr. Freston were at the meetings, then Mr Freston and Mr. Sax would report to Mr. Jack Warner if the matter was of sufficient importance. Mr. McCann. Did either Mr. Freston or Mr. Jack Warner call you personally with respect to what took place in Hollywood on August 22, on September 11, on September 12, on the days that they were ne- gotiating their proposed action ? Mr. Perkins. No, sir. Mr. McCann, None of them communicated with you? Mr. Perkins. No, sir. Mr. McCann. Does Mr. Jack Warner in Hollywood have authority, or do any of these subordinates of your company have authority with respect to actions regarding the labor determinations made in Holly- wood? Mr. Perkins. Yes, sir. Mr. McCann. Who has that authority? Mr. Perkins. Mr. Herbert Freston. Mr. McCann. Mr. Herbert Freston I do not believe is present in this room ? Mr. Perkins. No; I do not think so. I know he is not. Mr. McCann. Mr. Chairman, I think that is all at this time. Mr. Cobb has some questions. Mr. Kearns. You disapproved of Mr, Johnston's plan to close the studios ? Mr. Perkins. At the end of the discussion; yes, sir, Mr, Kearns. And before that you did not ? Mr. Perkins. I did not; no. Mr. Kearns. Do you feel that Mr. Hutcheson has been unfair in his dealings in the labor situation with the motion-picture industry ? Mr. Perkins. I feel that he should have abided by the directive of December 26, sir. Mr. Kearns. That is your personal opinion ? Mr. Perkins, Yes, sir, Mr, liJEARNS, Were you in favor of appointing an arbitrator out there to settle the matter, if they would pay the salary of the arbi- trator? Mr, Perkins. I don't think that matter ever came up in my presence. Mr. Kearns. We had that testimony in the hearing out there, that the industry was willing to pay an arbitrator. Mr. Perkins. I do not doubt that they were, Mr, Kearns, Do you agree with Mr, Johnston that there should be legislation to deal with jurisdictional strikes ? Mr, Perkins. Mr. Chairman, I did not hear Mr. Johnston's testi- mony. Mr. Kearns. What is j'our own personal opinion about it, or do you feel qualified to give a statement? Mr. Perkins. I definitely do not feel qualified. I feel this matter of labor relations is a very specialized field; that really only lawyers who have made it a specialty are capable of expressing an opinion on the matters involved.