Jurisdictional disputes in the motion-picture Industry : hearings before a special subcommittee of the Committee on Education and Labor, House of Representatives, Eightieth Congress, first-session, pursuant to H. Res. 111 (1948)

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1206 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES Mr. McCann. Now, do you recall that on September 3 there was a meeting, and that it was decided to send a wire to Eric Johnston that you could not understand the directive and the interpretation ? Mr. Sax. I do not remember that particular meeting. Was I present at that meeting? Mr. McCann. You are shown to be present at that meeting on Sep- tember 3. I will read you the paragraph so there will be no doubt in your mind and see if you can recall it: Also wire Eric Johnston "Still cannot understand tlie directive or its interpreta- tion. Is this a directive to compel us to abide, or what shall we do? Both carpenters and "Walsh have given us opposite instructions. As we are between, A. F. of L. council must tell us what to do." Do you recall that? Mr.' Sax. I do not recall it, but if I was tliere no doubt I heard it. Mr. McCann. Testimony has been received that a wire somewhat in that spirit was sent to Mr. Johnston, as I recall it. Mr. Sax. Yes, sir. Mr. McCann. On September 11 were you there when Mr. Cambi- ano appeared before the committee and issued his ultimatum? Mr. Sax. Yes, I believe I was. Mr. McCann. The committee minutes as I see them here do not show you present but I thought perhaps you might have been there. Mr. Sax. I think I might have been there; I think I was at the meeting. ]\Ir. McCann. Do you recall Mr. Cambiano coming in? I shall read from the minutes so as to refresh your recollection. The minutes show: 3:15 p. m. carpenters in: Cambiano stated he had copies of the directive's interpretation and letter from Green stating copies had been sent to Johnston for the industry's information and that he was here to ask that it be put into effect on the first shift Thursday morning, September 12, 1946. Do you recall that ? Mr. Sax. Yes, I do recall that. Mr. McCann. That is accurate ? Mr. Sax. I believe it is, yes. Mr. McCann. Do you recall that at that time Mr. Skelton stated he understands construction to include— laying out of sets, laying flooring, cutting flooring, plumbing-up sets, and so forth; assembling, he thinks, is the same as prior to March 12, 1945, done by laborers and lA setting to line. Do you remember Skelton speaking at the meeting ? Mr. Sax. I do not particularly remember that; no, Mr. McCann. Mr. McCann. I wondered if you recall that Cambiano and Skelton were in together. Mr. Sax. I remember attending a meeting, but as I say, between attending meetings and trying to do the studio work it is difficult for me to retain everything that transpired at that particular time. Mr. McCann. Do you recall that, at that meeting on September 11, Mr. Kahane stated: The studios had a choice of two ways to go and that undoubtedly we still Intended going the way we had discussed. Mr. Sax. I do not remember that; no.