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1210 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES "clarification" of the decision in the Hollywood jurisdictional dispute made by Vice Presidents Knight, Birthwright, and Dougherty, dated December 26, 1945. It is the contention of this international union that the so-called clarification was issued without authority and in violation of the Cincinnati agreement to which this international alliance, yourselves, and the other international unions involved were all parties. The Cincinnati agreement in making provision for the creation of the three-man committee specifically provided that the parties thereto accept the committee's decision as final and binding. If the committee's decision as originally rendered is not fully complied with by you, this international will take such action as may be necessary to protect its interest. Yours very truly, RiCHAED F. Walsh, International President. Mr. Sax. Yes; I think I have seen that letter. Mr. McCann. The next question: Isn't that in substance what Mr. Walsh said at the August meeting you testified about? Mr. Sax. Yes; I believe it is. Mr. McCann. Questions submitted by Mr. Bodle, counsel for the painters: Isn't it true that the War Labor Board took jurisdiction of the dispute between the producers and the set decorators and issued an order requiring the producers to bargain with the set decorators? Mr. Sax. I think that is true. Mr. Owens. Just a moment, Mr. McCann. He thinks it is. Mr. McCann. Well, it is true, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Owens. Well, if these questions are going to mean anything— the gentleman always says he thinks it or believes it. Do you know whether it is true or not, Mr. Sax ? Mr. Sax. I am reasonabh^ sure that is true, yes; I think it is true. Mr. Owens. Have you any personal knowledge of that? Mr, Sax. I am sure that is right; yes. Mr. Kearns. Well, we know that is true. Mr. McCann. Is it not true that the producers refused to abide by the War Labor Board decision ? Mr. Sax. Yes, we did not abide by it, that is true. Mr. McCann. Is it not true also that when the set decorators affili- ated with the painters the producers by their contract were required to either recognize the new affiliation, or cancel the contract? Mr. Sax. I don't know about canceling the contract, I would not say. I think the attorneys could give you more information on that than I; I reality do not know. Mr. McCann. You do not know ? Mr. Sax. That is right. Mr. McCann. Is it not true that the producers did neither? In other words, the producers neither recognized the new affiliation nor canceled the contract ? Mr. Sax. It is possible that might have been so, yes. Mr. McCann. As a matter of fact, it is in the record that they did not do either. Another question submitted by Mr. I^evj of the lATSE legal staff: Didn't the producers submit that the War Labor Board had no jurisdiction to render a decision and that it was a matter for the Labor Relations Board ? Mr. Sax. That is true.