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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1211 Mr. McCann. Any other questions ? Mr. Owens. That is the point I was trying to bring out before, Mr. Sax, as to what you knew about this National Labor Relations Board matter. You do know they refused to follow the order of the War Labor Board and contended, maybe properly so, that it was a matter for the National Labor Relations Board ? Mr. Sax. Yes. ]Mr. Owens. Then there was a proceeding before the National Labor Relations Board? Mr. Sax. Yes. Mr. Owens. Was that before or after the War Labor Board's deci- sion ? Mr. ZoRN. Mr. Owens, we can clarify that in a moment. Mr. Kelvrns. Just a moment, please. Mr. Sax. I am not sure about that, I am not sure whether it was before or after. Mr. Owens. Those are points which the attorneys and others who follow vou will be able to clear up ? Mr. Sax. That is right. Mr. McCann. That is all, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Kearns. I would like Mr. Zorn to come to the stand, please. Now I am letting Mr. Owens question Mr. Zorn about this. If any other counsel wants to take the stand and enlighten the Congressman further, we would be very glad to have you take the stand at this time. Mr. Zorn. I have already been sworn. Mr. Kearns. That is right. Proceed, Mr. Owens. TESTIMONY OP BUETON A. ZORN—Recalled Mr. Oavens. When was this matter before the War Labor Board about which Mr. Sax just spoke? Mr. Zorn. I can give you this matter in sequence so that you will have the story very clearly. Mr. Owens. Fine; go ahead. Mr. Zorn. Sometime in the fall of 1944, about October of 1944, the painters' union filed a petition with the National Labor Relations Board for representation over certification for this group of set decorators, or as we call them, set dressers. They are sort of interior decorators. Then the lATSE filed an intervention petition just about that time. This was sometime around October 1944. When the lATSE filed this petition, this intervention petition, the painters' union withdrew their original representation petition. Immediately after that there was a strike of very short duration, sometime in October of 1944. It was a strike lasting about 2 or 3 days called by the painters. The War Labor Board was in existence at that time. The War Labor Board requested them to go back to work and told them they would appoint an arbitrator. Mr. Owens. How did the War Labor Board come into the pro- ceeding? Mr. Zorn. Because this was during the war period. I do not know precisely who called the board in but in any event there was a strike. Mr. Owens. That is important, I think.