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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1223 Mr. O'Connor, Yes, sir, Mr. McCann. But you did not hear the conversation between the presidents and the hibor committee? Mr. O'Connor. No, sir; because it was on the telephone. Mr. McCann. And it was in a different room? Mr. O'Connor. In the room across tlie hall from the board room. Mr. McCann. I think that is all, Mr. Chairman. Any questions, gentlemen ? Mr. O'Connor, I want to say to you that you are the first witness appearing before this committee, among the presidents or vice presi- dents, who has given a lucid reason, insofar as his own company was concerned, as to why you had to keep open. Mr. O'Connor. Thank you. Mr. Oan^ens. I think Mi-. McCann. as counsel for the committee, we could not sit here and agree with you on that, so that would have to be 3^our own statement, of course. Mr. McCann, Mr. Owens, have you heard any other president ex- plain the condition in his company which necessitated that? Mr. Owens. I thought they were quite lucid. Mr. McCann, If I in any way reflected upon their not being lucid, I definitely want to remove that statement, but I am stating, Mr. Owens, I feel Mr. O'Connor has presented factual conditions with respect to his company and the reasons why the action was taken, which have not been given to us by any other president. I do not believe 3"ou could question that, Mr. Owens. Well, that is different. Mr. McCann. Mr. Cobb submits this question: "Was your representative on the Hollywood labor committee au- thorized to act for your company in the August and September 1946 connnittee meetings?" Mr. O'Connor. Mr. Clifford Work, the general manager at Uni- versal at that time was alwaj^s in constant contact with Mr. Blum- berg. Mr. Blumberg was on the coast; Mr. Work contacted hira there. If Mr. Blumberg was in New York, Mr. Work talked to him on the phone. It was Mr. Blumberg's practice to talk to Mr. Work once or twice a day, every day of the week. He was in constant touch with everything that went on. On any action which was necessary for him to take he got Mr. Blumberg's approval. If Mr. Blumberg had any instructions to transmit, he transmitted them to Mr. AVork to carry out. Mr. McCann. I thank you for that statement, too. Now, the next question: "Does your company stand behind the actions taken by your rep- representative in Hollywood?" Mr. O'Connor. I imagine it does. If the representative took those actions he was instructed to take whatever actions he took, there- fore the company must stand behind him. Mr. McCann. Thank you very much. Mr. Kearns. Mr. O'Connor, I want to thank you for coming be- fore the committee and I agree with ISIr. McCann's statement. Mr. Zorn.