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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1251 Mr. Owens. You are depending upon Mr. Green? Mr. SoRRELL. I am depending upon the arbitrators, Green and the executive counciL It looks like the world was with us. That was our opinion. That was the opinion of others. You see, it did not happen to be the opinion of the lATSE, so natur- ally it was not the opinion of the producers. Mr. OwExs. I have not seen where you have changed the statement of the attorney that you were going to change in one way. Mr. SoRRELL. I did not come here to change his statement, I came here to clarify the statements. I told you I wanted to clarify it. Mr. Owens. You have not disagreed with him in any place so far. You have merely said you abided by Mr. Green's statement that you should not follow the directive of the three-man committee. Mr. SoRRELL. Mr. Owens, I did not come up here to argue with you. I came up here to clarify a few things. He told you we had contracts in 19J:J:. We did not have contracts in 1944. Mr. Owens. I did. not understand him to say you had contracts in 1944 at all. Mr. SoRRELL. Well, I made a note of it, otherwise I would not have spoken of it. Another thmg. He says production is going on as usual. I will guarantee you production is not going on as usual. I will guarantee you that these motion-picture studios are sick and production is so low that the lATSE, the actors, and everybody else, is lined up at the unemployment offices. I don't know why he should say that. That is as near to distorting the truth as anyone could have. Another thing I wanted to clarify: He said only the carpenters were on strike. What's the matter with the painters. What's the matter with machinists ? What's the matter with the Mr. 0^\^:NS. He mentioned that the carpenters and the painters were on strike, and he said they had an agreement, or at least Mr. Boren stood up and indicated they had a working agreement with the plumbers, machinists, and the others, but indicated the carpenters and painters were on strike. Mr. SoRRELL. He said only the carpenters were actively on strike. What's the matter with the set designers, the machinists, the painters, and so forth ? Mr. 0\\t;ns. I understood set designers and painters were in one group; is that correct? Mr. SoRRELL. The set designers are one local and the painters are another local. They happen to be in the same international. Mr. Owens. You may be right on that, but Mr, Boren stood up and at least indicated there was a working agreement with everyone but the carpenters and the painters. Mr. SoRRELL. I am sure Mr. Boren can clear that up for you and probably we better let him do it. I realize I am taking time from more able men that can explain it better than I can. I think Mr. Brown should be on here and do more explaining. I did not intend to go this far into this at the present time. I know Mr. Kearns does not want it. I am only trying to answer your ques- tions and get your mind in the state where I think you will have a clear picture.