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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1259 A copy, of course, was sent to the organization that I represent in New York Cit5\ Mr. Owens. It certainly received consideration, did it not? Mr. Lbvy. It did. Mr. Kearxs. I want to get industry's side ironed out as quickly as possible. I can bring j^ou back when we get into the labor angle, if you do not mind, Mr. Levy, if that will take care of it for the moment. Mr. Cobb. May I make a statement for the record at this point? Mr. Kearns. I am going to rule at this time—I am going to take Mr. Boren. and after that we will get into the other matter. Mr. Cobb. It is only with regard to the attack on Mr. Schatte. Mr. Le\t. I made no attack on Mr. Schatte at all. Mr. Kearks. That was ruled on before the whole committee. Mr. Bodle. I have a couple of legal matters I want to comment on. Mr. Kearns. You may, after we hear Mr. Boren. Mr. Levy. I shall be called back, I assume ? Mr. Kearns. You will be back. When Mr. Walsh is on, the two of you can go together, Mr. Levy, or anything you want to do. TESTIMONY OF CHARLES S. BOREN, VICE PRESIDENT, ASSOCIATION OF MOTION PICTURE PRODUCERS, LOS ANGELES, CALIF.— Recalled Mr. McCann. What position do you hold in the motion-picture in- dustry ? Mr. Boren. I am vice president in charge of industrial relations for the Association of Motion Picture Producers. ]Mr. McCann. When did you take that position ? Mr. Boren. The 1st of April in 1947. Mr. McCann. Whom did you succeed in that position ? ]\Ir. Boren. Mr. Pat Casey. Mr. McCann. How long had he held that position ? Mr. Boren. I believe he held that position since around 1926 or 1925. Mr. McCann. a little over 20 years ? Mr. Boren. Twenty years. Mr. McCann. What was your work before you became the vice president of the producers association in charge of labor relations ? Mr. Boren. I was industrial-relations manager for Paramount Pic- tures, Inc., and studio manager. Mr. McCann. How long did you hold that position, sir? Mr. Boren. I first became associated with Paramount Pictures in 1935, in the fall, and I assumed the job of industrial-relations manager in 1939. Mr. McCann. In other words, you held that position for approxi- mately 6 years before you became identified with the producers as their vice president? Is that correct or is it more than that? Mr. Boren. Well, from 1939 to 1947, would be approximately 71/2 or 8 years. Mr. McCann. Would you mind telling us at this time, Mr. Boren, how many basic agreements there are between the producers and the unions ?