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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1277 Mr. BoKEN. That is true. Mr. McCanx. That completes the questions, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Owens. Just one question to chirify this matter: With respect to September of 194G, it is my understanding you said you Avere functioning under the directive which completely changed the status of the existing contracts, isn't that true ? ]\Ir. BoREN. If peo]de will not observe the directive, I should say that that naturally follows. Congressman Owens. Mr. Owens. In other words, the reason for the arbitration was to determine the jurisdiction over certain work? Mr. BoREN. For no other reason. Mr. Owens. After the directive was handed down, that specified what work was to be done by the carpenters? ]\[r. Boren, That is true. Mr. Owens. It was work in September 1946, for instance, that they were insisting upon doing which was not assigned to them and had been assigned to others; is that correct? JNIr. BoRE^^ Correct. Mr, Owens. So there was no question of any agreement being fol- lowed, except the directive at that time? In other words, you had no agreement with the carpenters to do that certain specific work other than the directive which was issued; isn't that true? ]Mr. BoREN. We had no formal executed collective-bargaining agree- ment. In one sense there we do have an agreement, and we do not have an agreement, I mean that is a matter for counsel. The carpenters claim that they had an agreement and whether they do or not, I do not know. That was in July. i\Ir. Owens. July what ? Mr. BoREN. July 2, 1946. That was the treaty of Beverly Hills. Mr. Owens. But that was 7 months after the directive. Did you agree in that so-called treaty with the carpenters, to change the direc- tive ? Mr. BoREN. We certainly did not. jSIr. Owens. Then you did not have any agreement with them to do an}^ work other than was assigned under the directive; is that true? ^Ir. BoREN. We did not. ]Mr. Owens. I think that covers it. That is all, Mr. Chairman. Mr. ]McCann. There is one more question by Mr. Cobb : If the December 26, 1945, decision constituted a contract, why did you make the Beverly Hills agreement, July 2, 1946? Mr. BoREN. July 2, 1946, covered wages and working conditions. It did not cover the jurisdiction of work. The directive issued by the three-man committee covered the jurisdiction of work between these conflicting unions. j\lr. Owens. Who asked that question, Mr. McCann? IMr. McCann. Mr. Cobb. Mr. Owens. Did Mr. Cobb know that? Is there any argument about the fact that it covered wages and hours at that time in the treat}"? Mr. McCANN.Tlie treaty of Beverly Hills, sir, called for a contract of 2 years, as I understand. Mr. Owens. For other than wages and hours? IMr. IMcCann. It called for a continuation of their work for a period of 2 years, and it also dealt with wages and hours, as I under- stand it. It has been so testified before this committee. 67383—48—vol. 2 16