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1296 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES Mr. Owens. Why would that be ? Mr. TuoHY. Well, if the equipment was broken down and our men refused to make any repairs to keep it going, we were falling down on our job. Mr. Owens. You represented the teamsters; did j^ou ? Mr. TuoHY. That is right. Mr. Owens. And is the repair of the equipment a part of their function ? Mr. TuonY. No; it was part of the machinists' function. Through the emergencies a lot of work was done by crafts to keep their equipment going so they could work. Mr. Owens. Oh, I see, you mean the automotive equipment? Mr. TuoHY. Our own automotive equipment; that is right. We never went beyond that. Mr. Owens. Oh, that is what I mean. In other words, repairing their own trucks, and so forth ? Mr. TuoHY. That is right. Mr. Owens. So that they could keep their contract ? Mr. TuoHY. That is right. I might state that a number of machin- ists, at least 75 percent of the men who were automotive mechanics in the studio, had spoken to our membership and said, "Why don't you take us over," because in 19M, I believe it was, the conference of team- sters in Seattle, the International Journal of Teamsters came out and devoted one full page to the apparent troubles they would have where a machinist now withdrawing from the American Federation of Labor might join some Jiew organization. Therefore, wherever that would occur, the teamsters were to take over that work, if they were qualified to do it. That was by an order from Mr. Tobin in 1944, so we just did not have to ask anybody, we simply carried out his order at that time, because we thought the time had arrived when they would have to step in and keep that equipment repaired to keep our men on the job. So these members of the machinists who wanted to stay on the job and did not want to go out on strike, appealed to our members that they were working with to take into our union, I believe we had 75 jDercent of those men make applications within a very short time. Mr. Owens. The lAM was an independent union at that time; is that right ? Mr. TouiiY. That is right. Mr. Owens. How do you account for the fact that it became a part of an organization with another group of the A. F. of L. unions? Mr. TuoHY. That I do not know. Mr. Owens. Is that common throughout the United States? Mr. TiTOHY. That I do not know either. My connection was solely with the studios. I did not keep abreast of all the goings on in othet* organizations. It certainly seen^ed funny to a lot of us there in the studio. Mr. Owens. In other words, you had a situation where some of the A. F. of L. unions were joining with an independent union and at- tempting to deal with the studios, while the studios were dealing with a third union, that is, the lA, and you on the part of the A. F. of L. were doing some of the work that might have been done by the machin- ists in order to keep your contract with the producers? Mr. TuoHY. That'is ridit.