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MOTIOX-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1297 Mr. Owens. That is because you felt when you had a contract i\ should be fulfilled ? Mr. TuoiiY. That is right. INIr. 0^vENS. What was your thought about the strike that took place during wartime in 1945, was it, the early part? ]Mr. TuoiiY. Tlie first strike was in March of 1945, I believe, or the first 3 days occurred in October of 1944. Mr. OwExs. Then the long strike began in Mar^h of '45 ? ]Mr. TuoHY. Well, that was not the longest. That lasted from March 1945 until the meeting in Cincinnati of the A. F. of L. execu- tiA'e board in October of 1945. This strike now going on is much longer than the "45 strike. Mr. OwExs What I mean by the "long strike" is the fact that during the war there were onl}- 3 days in October '44, but this other began during the war and lasted for 5 months during the war and for a month or two thereafter? Mr. TuoiiY. That is right. Mr. Owens. What was your thought and opinion, and how did you express yourself with regard to that? Mr. TuoiiY. Well, I don't know that I did much expressing to any- body other than by actions. We stayed on the job to try to cai'ry out our contract. IMr. Owexs. You were one of the persons wdio participated in carrvinii out the contract, were you? ]\fr. tuoTiY. That is right. Mr. Owexs. What did you mean before by saying you did not want the men to go through the lines? ^h\ TuoTiY. I should like to explain that. There was quite a bit of discussion regarding the new replacements who were going to go in and take the other man's job, would they have to haul those men. I might explain also it was rather a dangerous job of trying to go in and out of those studio gates. That was their concern. They felt those carrying the replacements would be singled out for, say, rough treatment at a later date. That was the big concern and caused most of the discussion, that they would carry on their regular, normal duties. It was with police protection and a rather hazardous job, but they did not want to go out and pick up those people to get them to work, because an individual could not get through that picket line. Mr. OwEX's. Do you know whether or not the teamsters' union made it a habit of keeping their contracts in different parts of the United States as they Avere doing in Hollywood ? Mr. TuoiiY. Well, I would say their record would stand with the best as to keeping their contracts. Those were Mr. Tobin's orders. I "would say they rank with the best unions in the American Federation of Labor in keeping their contracts. Mr. Owexs. I have heard out on the west coast this man Beck has quite a reinitation for that. Is he the one that is in charge out there? Mr. TroiiY. That is right. He is the president of the 11 Western States Conference of Teamsters Unions and is also executive vice pres- ident of the international union. Mr. Owexs. The local you are president of, is that still in existence? Mr. TuoTiY. Yes, it is.