Jurisdictional disputes in the motion-picture Industry : hearings before a special subcommittee of the Committee on Education and Labor, House of Representatives, Eightieth Congress, first-session, pursuant to H. Res. 111 (1948)

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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1315 Mr. Owens. And they went in in accordance with the agreement with the producers ? Mr. Brown. They violated the agreement they had with the local union. Mr. Owens. Would that apply to the teamsters also, who went through the picket line? Mr. Brown. I don't know anything about the teamsters. Mr, Owens. Well, they went through the picket line, did they not? You heard the testimony today. Mr. Brown. Yes. Mr. Owens. Would that be a violation ? Mr. Brown. I don't know anything about their rules. All I know is that the members of Lodge liSS of the I. A. of M. obligated them- selves pursuant to the provisions of the contract not to cross a picket line . Mr. Owens. That is a contract Mr. IvEARNs. Let us stay with the issue now, Mr. Owens. Mr. Owens. We are staying with the issue, Mr. Kearns. In other words, you supported a union which had an argument with the pro- ducers and whicli was not your own argument? JMr. Brown. What do you mean by supported a union? Mr. Owens. You did not go through a picket line like the team- sters did ? ]Nfr. Brown. Is that to our discredit? Mr. Owens. I am not saying one way or the other; I am saying you did not do it. INIr. Brown. Mr. Owens, I have answered repeatedly that in 1945 or 1946, or any time, in the last 8 years at least, whenever a strike occurred in Hollywood, the members of our local union obligate themselves, among themselves and they have a provision in the bylaws that they will not cross the picket line. Whether that is right or wrong I am telling you that is what happened. INIr. OwENS. Did"you consider the teamsters strikebreakers? Mr. Brown. I diet not take the teamsters or anybody else into con- sideration, so far as that is concerned. Mr. Owens. What is the difference between the teamsters who went through the lines and the union men who worked in there? Mr. Brown. Mr. Owens, why ask me to pass upon the conduct of the members of another union ? Mr. Owens. You have done it, you have just called these men strike- breakers. Mr. Brown. I am referring to the machinists. Mr. Owens. Just a moment until I complete my question. You referred to those men as strikebreakers Mr. Brown. I did not. Mr. Owens. Just a minute, please. You referred to those men as strikebreakers who went in and worked with this other union, who were union men. didn't you? Mr. Brown. I referred to the former members of our organizations who violated their oath of membership, broke their local bylaws and deserted the fellows whom they pledged to stand by. I referred to them and other machinists who were hired to accept jobs while our people were out on the street. I referred to them as strikebreakers.