Jurisdictional disputes in the motion-picture Industry : hearings before a special subcommittee of the Committee on Education and Labor, House of Representatives, Eightieth Congress, first-session, pursuant to H. Res. 111 (1948)

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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1329 Ml'. Brown. At no time, as far as I know, in the Hollywood studios. Mr. Levy. I didn't say anything about the Hollywood studios, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Kearxs. Now, just a minute. Mr. Levy. But, ]Mr. Chairman Air. Kearns. I will get an answer. Mr. Levy, JNIr. McCann knows that is not an answer, and he ought to ask him again. Mr. Kearns. Now, you just sit down a minute. We will get an answer on that. Mr. Levy. All right; I just want it to be on the record. Mr. Kearns. Will you restate the question ? Mr. AIcCaxn. Rereading the question: Isn't it a fact that for several years the carpenters' union disregarded the .inrisdiction of the lAM and in that disregard deliberately enrolled and repre- sented machinists engaged in the erection, installation, or repair of machinery? And from the comments of Mr. Levy, he means anywhere in the United States. jNIr. Brown. Mr. Chairman, am I required Mr. Kearns. You may answer or not answer. If it is not within your ability to answer, I do not know how you are going to answer. But we would like an answer, if possible. That is the only way I can protect counsel. Mr. Brown. The question I want to ask is: Will it contribute to the purpose of this hearing to discuss whether there were differences between two unions in other industries? Afr. Kearxs. I don't think you have to go outside your own union. If I were sitting in your spot, I would mind my own business. Mr, Browx\ Mr. McCann, in the Hollywood area I don't believe there ever was a closer association, a greater degree of fidelity between two groups tha-n there is between the members of the carpenters and machinists' unions. If the membership of the carj^enters and machin- ists in other areas does differ, I prefer not to discuss it. yir. Kearx-^s. At this point you may ask another question worded differently, if you desire. Then if you want to go on record objecting to this, we will do that. iVIr. Levy. I will just take 2 minutes after he gets through, if he does not want to answer the questions, because he testified about his disaffdiation with the A. F. of L., and I want to give the reason for that disaffiliation. Mr. Owens. Mr. Chairman, I would construe the answer to mean that while that was true in Hollywood, it was not true in other places. Mr, Kearxs. Proceed with the question, Mr. Counsel, Mr. McCaxx. They are all on the some line, sir. I will proceed with tliem. Mr. Kearxs. You will have to read them. Mr. AIcCaxx. Did not the lAM register a complaint with the AFL against tlie carpenters' union? >rr. Browx. When? Mr. McCaxx. It doesn't say; I can't imagine, Mr, Levy. I say that Mr. AlcCann ought to ask the questions with the same interest tliat he asks questions submitted by others, Mr. McCaxx. Xow, Mr. Chairman, I think it is time