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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIOXAL DISPUTES 1337 and the invard does not «rive tliem tliat right—because the award in connection with the ])rojectoi's had this to say : It is agreed that ineiiibers of the lATSE shall have jnrisdietion over the setting lip and taking down of njotion-picture machines in such places as they are used for exhibition purposes. Xow, then, tliey are applying that to so-called motion-picture machines that are used for other than exhibition purposes. Therefore, I say the producers and the lA conspired—and I put the emphasis on "conspired''—to violate the very language of the contract, and when our representative ai)proached them to ask them to stop that practice and restore the ])ast practice, nothing was done. ]Mr. McCanx. Continuing to read Mr. Bodle's questions: Was employment of 21 men in machinist classifications in April 1046 a violation by the producers of that telegram and the three-man directive? Mr. OwExs. Isn't that just a conclusion, Mr. McCann, even though you are asking their questions—-— Mr. Kearxs. He has to read the questions submitted to him. Mr. OwExs. You and I could furnish the answer to that. Mr. McCaxx. Mr. Chairman, you will bear in mind the other day numerous questions were prepared for the producers like this. I re- call definitely saying, for example, that I thought Mr. Johnston or one of the presidents was fully able to distinguish betw^een what he could and could not answer.. Mr. OwExs. What I mean, Mr. Cliairman, is that this question ob- viously is in the nature of a direct examination question and calls for a conclusion, which might be proper in a cross-examination question, but is only a conclusion here and I will not pay any attention to the answer myself, because it is absolutely a conclusion. Mr. McCaxx. Bear in mind these are questions prepared by coun- sel for the interested parties, and not by me. Mr. OwExs. I am saying to counsel it is a conclusion and a direct- examination question. Go ahead. Mr. McCaxx'. Will you answer the question? Mr. Browx. Mr. McCann, will you please repeat the question? Mr. McCaxx. Was employment of 21 men in machinist classifica- tions in April 194G. a violation by the producers of their telegram and the three-man directive? Mr. Browx. I can't answer that question. Mr. McCaxx. Have you heard the minutes of the producers' labor committee meeting for the period August 22, 1946, to September 24, 1946? Mr. Brow v. No, I did not hear them. ^Ii'. McC>xx. Is your conclusion that the 1946 lockout w^as the re- sult of a cons])iracy based in part on those minutes? Mr. Brown. I couldn't say. I was not here when the minutes were read. Ml'. McCaxx. Have you read the miinites tiiat were received in evi- dence in Hollywood ". yh-. Bro^'x. On tliat Se!)tember heai'ing ( Mr. McCaxx. Yes.