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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1341 Mr. Owens. And you protested in that very fine article you have written tliere in that magazine, j^ou made the protest completely a<iainst that union, did you not? Mr. Hkown. No; that ai'ticle in the magazine has notliing to do with this case. Mr. Oavens. But you were talkino- about their infringement upon your jurisdiction completely? ]\Ir. Brown. But not infringement caused by the lA. Nothing is said about the producers in that article. ]\rr. OwExs. But in that article it was a charge against the A. F. of L.'s general management, was it not? Mr. Broavn. Any criticism I directed at the A. F. of L. executive council because of our over-all problems has nothing to do with the dispute in Hollywood where the producers ignored the directive and acquiesced in the wishes of the lA, which also ignored the directive. Mr. Owens. Except that it is just one little branch of the over-all problem and this fact, Mr. Brown, when they say to you, you have merely joined the actions of the CSU in two instances, both in the spring of 19-15. during wartime, and the spring of 1040. You seem to be throwing the blame on the producers here in conjunction with •this CSU when you were in the meantime carrying on an argument with the A. F. of L. vrho had wronged you—we will use that word, maybe rightly or wrongly. I don't know, because you made a pretty good charge against them in that article there—and you are now taking it out on the producers in this case. Isn't that the substance of it ? Mv. Brown. ]Mr. Owens, what you are trying to portray by referring to wliat T said in that article is 1,000 miles removed from the dispute in Hollywood following the directive. Mr. Owens. Yes; but it is just one little sample. Hollywood is a little sample of what was happening to you all over the United States. Mr. Broavn. If you mean to say that the machinists have been getting a raw deal all along the line, yes; I agree with you. Mr. OwExs. "Well, that is plain language. That is all.' Ml-. Kearns. Mr. Brown. I want to thank you for appearing here. You came of your own free will. We appreciate the contribution you have made in the record. At this time before we call your assistants, counsel has a request to make. Mr. McCaxn. Mr. Chairman, during that little recess I spoke to Mr. Clark. I do not knoAv whether lie has transmitted the request to Mr. Zorn or to ]\Ir. Bryson, but I would like to request that Mr. Bryson furnish to us by not later than Monday morning a copy of the minutes of the Producers Labor Committee from the 15th of February 1945 to the end of March 1945. I would like for the Chair to second that request. Mr. Kearxs. Do you understand that, Mr. Bryson? ^fr. ZoRX. May I answer that? Mr. Kearxs. Yes. Mr. ZoRx. If there are any, and if they are available, and if we can get tliem here on time, we will be veiT hapjn^ to get them. Mr. Kearxs. Tliank you, Mr. Zoi'u and ]\[r. Bryson. Mr. McCaxn. Noav, Mr. Chairman, at the conclusion of this testi- mony, at the request of j\[r. Levy, I want to ask that the Chair permit r,7:;,s:i—4s—vol.2 -20 »