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1368 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES Mr. Owens. Mr. Brown testified tliey did have such a regulation. Mr. McCann. It was my understanding, sir—and I have no dispo- sition not to get it—if you will bring in the constitution and bylaws of the international we will be glad to have it, but as I understood Mr. Brown's testimonj^ it was that it was a local law of the I AM local in Hollywood. Mr. Wayne, As I explained a while ago, each individual local has a set of bylaws, all encompassed within the constitution or not in opposition to the constitution. The constitution of our international organization is available. We can have it here Monday. It is in the city. Mr. McCann. Will you produce the constitution and bylaws of local 1185, lAM, in effect from Januarv 1941 to date ? Mr. Wayne. We will. Mr. McCann. Thank you. Mr. Wayne. We will wire for it tonight and have it sent by air mail. Mr. McCann. Can you give the substance of the local law at this time ? Mr. Wayne. The clause governing passing through picket lines? Mr. McCann. Yes. Mr. Wayne. This is it in essence, to the best of my recollection: It shall be considered conduct unbecoming a member to violate any bona fide A. F. of L. picket line, or scabbing or any other conduct unbecoming a member. Mr. McCann. The next question of Mr. Levy: If the carpenters or any other union established picket lines to take jurisdiction away from your union would your union respect—it looks like regard—I was not sure—respect that picket line? Mr. Wayne. I would like to make an observation, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Kearns. Proceed. Mr. Wayne. If somebody is holding me up with a gun I am sure not going to help him kill myself. If they established a picket line against my own union certainly I am not going to observe it. Mr. McCann. In other words, the picket line that honorable labor recognizes is not a jurisdictional picket line ? That is the next question. Mr. Wayne. I do not think I quite caught that, Mr. McCann. Mr. McCann. Following the question 1 just read, you understand, he now asks this: In other words, the picket line that honorable labor recognizes is not a jurisdictional picket line? Mr. Wayne. That is a hard one to try to answer. When a union establishes a picket line it usually does it after considerable thought as to whether they have a real grievance. When they establish that picket line I am not usually called in to decide for them whether it is a legitimate picket line. If their international union will sustain it, our people will sustain it. Mr. Owens. I do not believe that is what he means by the question. It could have been enlarged, but what I think it means is if 3'^ou know a union is out on the picket line merely in a jurisdictional strike against another union, whether that is the type of picket line that you respect ? Mr. Wayne. I do not like a jurisdictional picket line and I would certainly hesitate to order our people to respect it.