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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1391 decision was made and the directive was made. After tlie directive was made the carpenters did not want to go along with the directive. Now perhaps the directive Avas not clear enough and they had to go back and make a clarification with the board of directors of the A. F. of L. Xow the cai'penters' case may not have been presented exactly right but they had the time and I "thought everyone knew the committee was meeting and that they would have (he time. If I am wrong in that. j)lease tell me. Mr. HuTCHEsox. Congressman Landis, with all deference to your ability, knowledge, and so forth Mr. Landis. Leave that out. Mr. HuTCiiESOx. Let me say this: The carpenters' case was not presented to the committee by a representative of the brotherhood. A rei)resentative of the general president was instructed to contact the connnittee as per their request and assist them in any way he ^ould, but not to attempt to present the case of the Brotherhood of Car- penters. Mr. Landis. But Cambriano was a member of the carpenters? Mr. HuTCHESoN. That is right. Mr. Landis. And a representative ? ISIr. HuTCHESON. He did not represent and he did not attempt to do other than to assist that committee. He did not attempt to present the case of the United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America. :dr. L.xDii. ^Alr, told Inm to testify ? Mr. HuTCHEsoN. Your humble servant, the general president of the United Carpenters and Joiners of America, but I did not tell him to testify. I told him to contact the committee and do such things as they thought might be helpful to them, but not to try to attempt to present the case of the brotherhood. Mr. Kearns. Mr. Hucheson, what is the official status and title of Mr. Cambriano on the west coast? Mr. HuTCHES0x\ He is the general representative of the United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America by appointment of the general president. He is only one of about 90 that we have. Mr. Kearx'S. You may proceed from that point. Mr. HuTCiiESON. Mr. Chairman, I just read the communication sent by the general secretary of the brotherhood to Mr. Green, presi- dent of the American Federation of Labor Mr. McCax'X'. Mr. Chairman, may I interrupt a second? I would like to ask if there is any written record on the point that was under discussion a moment ago. if Mr. Hutcheson has a copj^ of the letter, telegram, or instructions given Mr. Cambiano? Mr. OwEXS. Wouldn't we call that just self-serving evidence? ^Ir. IMcCann. That would be the best evidence rather than memory, if he had a letter showing what he instructed Mr. Cambiano. That would be better evidence than his memory as to what took place several years ago. Mr. Kearx'S. I do not think there is any necessity of that. Mr. OwExs. His memory is good enough for me on that point. Mr. HuTCHESOX'. Mr. Chairman, I do not want to interfere with 5'our procedure, but I would like to say this: I still want to be helpful. This may clarify it just a little.