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1412 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES Mr. HuTCHESON. May I bring out just one more point from tlie Congressman. If your answer be correct when you said "No," then why does the Taft-Hartley law carry a provision that if we of labor want to avail ourselves of the privileges of that law, we have to sign an affidavit that we are not a Communist? Now, why do we have to do that, if they are not recognized as a party ? Mr. Owens. We know wdiat the principles of the Communists are. Tliat has been told to us. Mr. Kearns. Mr. Owens, you are speaking for yourself ? Mr. Owens. I am speaking for myself, I said that. The House of Representatives decided to put the words "Communist Party" in that provision. Now, whether they have made a mistake or not Avill have to be determined by the courts later, but I gave you an answer to what I thought about it. Mr. HuTCHESON. Mr. Chairman, I did not want to start some con- troversy. Mr. Landis. I want to speak a little on that, too. Mr. HuTCHESON. Fine, we are going to get some information yet, I can see that. I realize, Congressman, that our Congressmen from Indiana are among the most intelligent Congressmen in Congress. Mr. Landis. Well, I thank you for that. Mr. HuTCHESON. Are among—don't overlook my word "among." Mr. Landis. The States have the right as to political parties. The Communist Party has not been outlawed federally, because the States have jurisdiction over political parties in elections, and of course, the political party is recognized. As far as I am concerned, I would outlaw it. We have some bills in Congress to outlaw the Communist Party so long as they believe in the overthrow of the Government of the United States by force. The complaint I had was that Herbert Sorrell was a Communist under the name of Herbert Stewart. That is one complaint which came to me from the outside. Now, I would like to know. Mr. HuTGiiESON. Could I interrupt your line of thought? As the Congressman from Indiana, do you believe that? Mr. Landis. Well, I would not know, but that is what we are here to find out. He is head of some of the locals out there and probably some of the other fellows belong. Mr. McCann. Mr. Chairman Mr. Kearns. Just a minute, please, Mr. Counsel. Mr. Landis, I want to make it clear. We will let Mr. Hutcheson proceed, but in all fairness to Mr. Walsh and Mr. Levy, his counsel, whom I have cut off many times when we got into this angle of it, they too will have ample time to explain their side as to any statements made here pertaining to the president here. It is fully understood if we take time out now to go into this Brown angle of it, we will give everybody proper time to explain it. Is that all right with you, Mr. Landis ? Mr. Landis. That is fine. Mr. McCann. Mr. Chairman, may I be heard on this subject ? Mr. Kearns. You may, Mr. McCann. I speak with great deference, Mr. Landis, Mr. Owens, and Mr. Chairman, on this proposition, but the committee appointed