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1418 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES about macliinists. I don't talk about the machinists, I talk about mill- wrights. Mr. Owens. Someone introduced an article by Mr. Brown the other day. Mr. HuTCHESON. We still have the millwrights. Mr. Chair^man. I want to explain further that the fourteenth reso- lution passed by the American Federation of Labor only sets forth that the machinist* had certain rights. It did not say a word about mill- wrighting. If it had said something, we would have objected, and we are still doing millwrighting. Is that clear i Mr. OwENS^ I am just remembering your remarks of last year where you said we did not obey it, and if they want to throw us out they can do it because we can still get along without the A. F. of L. Mr. HuTCiiESOx. I still say that, sir. I still say it and I will say it publicly anywhere. Mr. Landis. I wondered if this was a part of the picture: That the carpenters who objected to this directive make their objections to you. Is that correct? Mr. HuTCHESoN. I did not understand that, CJongressman. Mr. Landis. Did the carpenters in Hollywood protest the directive to you ? I am not speaking of the 1925 directive, I am speaking of the 1945 directive. Did they protest the decision to you after the directive was made ? Mr. HuTCHESON. Yes. Mr. Landis. I m^ean your own carpenters out there in the local. Mr. HuTCHESON. Well, naturally they objected. Mr. Landis. Well, that is what I thought. Mr. McCann. Mr. Landis, may I refresh your recollection? This morning the witness testified at considerable length that after the 1945 directive there was a protest filed with the international and that at their convention the carpenters passed a resolution. Mr. Landis. When was the convention? ]Mr. McCann. That was in April or May 1946. Thev passed Reso- lution No. 60 Mr. Laxdis. That is 4 months later, but I mean immediately after the directive was made did the carpenters in Hollywood file a protest with you that they did not like the directive, and they did not want it? Mr. HuTCHEsoN. Oh, certainly. Mr. Landis. This statement was by Brother Cambiano: I think we have presented our side of the case, Mr. Chairman. Chairman Knight. I think you have done a thorough job. I am satisfied. I hope you are. It is up to you to put in what you want. Brother Cambiano. I am very well satisfied with the way you gentlemen have treated us here and I assure you and know that our president will have that very same message to give you. Mr. HuTCHESON. My dear Congressman, that just shows the able people that we have representing the United Brotherhood of Carpen- ters and Joiners of America. He was very polite to the committee and he thanked them for the courtesies they extended to him, but you do not see in there where they thanked him for assisting them. Naturally he did not remind them of the fact, being too gentlemanly, that when he first came there he informed them he was only there to ' assist them and not present the case of the Brotherhood of Carpenters, Mr. Owens. Unfortunately, that part does not show in the record,, whereas the other remark did.