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1424 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIO^fAL DISPUTES ordinary, dumb building-trades man—I being one of them—would say that a body that had done something had a perfect right to re- consider and amend it if they saw fit. Mr. Owens. In other words, even though it said the decision would be final, and finding it would never have any binding effect—is that true ? Mr. HuTCHESON. Would you go to court and argue that a case de- termined on ex parte evidence should be sustained by a court of law ? Mr. Owens. I can answer that for you, Mr. Hutcheson. The law supports you on that point. The various statutes in the United States on arbitration support you in the fact that you can vacate and set aside an arbitration award where it was made without giving a person sufficient time to submit his evidence, providing he has sufficient >cause. But that again goes back to the court. It leaves the point with you whether or not Mr. Cambiano's appear- ance before the committee—who was the western representative—did not include you in the case. Mr. Hutcheson. Mr. Congressman, I want to say I testified in the record that Mr. Cambiano was sent there by myself with a certain understanding; he carried it out and reported to me, and the record before this subcommittee last summer shows he carried it out. Again I am going to repeat, if you doubt that he or I did not tell the truth, then impeach us for perjury or something else. Now, going back to your statement about the court, doesn't it often happen when a case is carried up in our civil procedure of the application of law, from a lower court to a higher court, that the higher court refers it back to be reviewed by the lower court or the original court? Mr. Owens. But they never refer it back to an arbitration com- mittee, Mr. Hutcheson. Mr. Hutcheson. I am talking about the law of the land, and I thought we lived in America, where we are free citizens. Mr. Owens. We are talking about arbitration agreements. Arbi- tration agreements, INIr. Hutcheson, as you know as a leader of labor, are final and binding. Mr. Hutcheson. In other words, you could go into arbitration, hear one side, make a decision, and according to your thesis just announce (it would be binding in court; is that right? Mr. Owens. That is right, unless- Mr. Hutcheson. Excuse me for saying- Mr. Owens. Justamoment, Mr. Hutcheson. Mr. Hutcheson. Is that the United States law ? Mr. Owens. Please, Mr. Hutcheson. Mr. Hutcheson. AVell, Mr. Chairman, ain't I got a right t-o discuss this with this gentleman? I am an American citizen the same as he is, even if he is a Congressman. Mr. Owens. But, Mr. Hutcheson, I had not concluded what I was saying. You asked me, and I was starting to say "yes," and then you broke in on me. Mr. Hutcheson. Excuse me; I did not mean to. Mr. Owens. I said unless there were certain reasons; for instance, if there was fraud or corruption in connection with it or if there was