Jurisdictional disputes in the motion-picture Industry : hearings before a special subcommittee of the Committee on Education and Labor, House of Representatives, Eightieth Congress, first-session, pursuant to H. Res. 111 (1948)

1426 MOTION-PICTURE JURISblCTIONAL DISPUTES But in doing that the members did it with the thought and deter- mination in mind that at some time or another the lATSE would no doubt come back into the studios, would no doubt come back into the basic agreement, and when they did there would be no question about giving back to them what rightfully belonged to them. Now that strike or that condition continued until 1935. I think perhaps now I can lead up to and answer the question propounded by the Congressman a little while ago. I read here the meeting of the two committees under the basic agree- ment, November 15, 1935, in New York City. Further, after the min- utes are read it says this: At a meeting between the unions now parties to the above basic agreement refeiTed to and t'e producers now ]);n-ties to tlie above basic agreenient referred to, which was held on December 8. l'J35, it was mutually agreed to by all parties present that the organization known as the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees, be reinstated under the above basic agreement referred to as of December 9, 1935, and they in turn to be bound by all the terms and condi- tions of the above basic agreement referred to, and all the amendments and extensions thereto. Dated, New York, December 9, 1935. Approved. Pat CAvSey, Chairman of the Producers Committee. William L. Hutcheson, Chairman of the Internationals Committee. George E. Brown, President of the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees. Mr. Kearns. Do you mean to intimate that after the lA came back all the work they had formerly done before they went on strike was returned to them ? Mr. Hutcheson. As far as I know, as far as our members were concerned. I might clarify that by saying: I would not say definitely all the work they had theretofore done, all the work that did not belong to us as carpenters. Now, Mr. Chairman, I am going to go a step further in reference to this meeting held in December 1935. You will notice that was just shortly after a meeting that had been held on November 15, 1935, the next month. The November meeting had just been adjourned. At the November meeting the lATSE was not a part of the basic agreement. The December meeting was called by a request of the chairman of the producers committee on behalf of the producers. The chairman of the international's committee notified the chairmen who were parties to that basic agreement. We went to New York and those who were signatories to the agreement first had a meeting with the producers' committee. At that meeting they requested us to appear the next day at a conference they had arranged with a repre- sentative of the lATSE and the producers' committee. We accepted their invitation to go to that meeting and we did attend it. When the representatives of the lATSE appeared they made objec- tions to the representatives of the organizations affiliated with the basic agreement being present at the conference, and said that their understanding was the meeting was to be between they—represent- atives of the lATSE—and the producers. Mr. Schenck of the producers spoke to the representatives of the lATSE and requested them to stay in the conference. A representa- tive of the international's committee spoke likewise, asked them to