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1428 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES I think I have presented evidence here to show, first, why we did not accept the decision or directive, whichever you please to call it, of the three-man committee when presented in December 194G, and as of the date December 26, 1945. I think I have seen statements with reference to the 1925 agreement being in effect from 1925 to 1933 are not correct because of the establishment of the basic agreement. I do not think there is anything further I might say that would have any further or more effective weight. Mr. Landis. Could you tell us why there was such a long time elapsed between the directive and the clarification? Mr. HuTCHESON. Congressman, I thought in reading the minutes of the American Federation of Labor, as I did this morning, that would show why there was a delay, Mr. Landis. You mean the Miami meeting? Mr. HuTCHESON. Well, why it took so long to get the clarification. Of course, I can understand this: Sometimes we, representing labor^ get it in our heads or in our minds that people like yourselves know just as much about that procedure as we do. Well, of course, when you get down to really analyzing it, you wake up to the fact that it is not so—that you just have a dumb conception of it. Now, the reason for it was, for instance, we protested at the Miami meeting in 1946. Now, in April 1946, we had a general convention. In our general convention the question was brought up as I have shown here by resolution on the floor—discussed on the floor of our conven- tion. 'We had 1,000 delegates present. We show the action of the convention referring it to our general executive board. The record further shows that in May, following April, the next month after the convention adjourned, the executive board acted on the matter and instructed the general secretary what to do, which was to write the executive council of the American Federation of Labor and enter our protest. The executive council of the American Federation of Labor met in May. The record shows I presented what was done. Mr. Landis. The directive was made December 26, was it not? Mr. HuTCHESON. The what was made when ? Mr. Landis. I say the directive was made December 26. Mr. HuTCHESON. That is right, and the meeting of the council was held in January in Miami. Our protest was made in January. Mr. Landis. That is what I wanted to get clear. Mr. HuTCHESON. From January to May there were no further meet- ing of the executive council of the American Federation of Labor, but the convention of the brotherhood was held in April. They took action and instructed our executive board and told them what to do, Mr. Landis. I was wondering what took place in January, You said the council met in January, and I did not know that. I knew of the April meeting and the other meeting, but I did not know about January. Mr, HuTCHESON, We moved just as fast as we could on the regular order of procedure, Mr. Ow^ENS, Now taking up that point, Mr, Hutcheson, we will go right down the line with those questions.