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1432 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES Mr. Owens. The following month ? Mr. HuTCHESoN. Yes. Mr. Oavens. But you did bring it up in April again ? Mr. HuTCHESON. I didn't bring it up in April. Mr. Owens. You didn't? Mr. HuTCHESON. The delegates to our convention brought it into the convention. Mr. Owens. They wouldn't do it without your authority, would they? Mr. HuTCHESON. Certainly. We don't have a dictator in the brotherhood; we just have a leader. He is selected by the members of the brotherhood. They tell him what to do or what their desires are. Now, when we have a convention it is another democratic gathering. Now, we cannot as general officers censor any resolution that is intro- duced. As an illustration I would deviate for just a moment Mr. Owens. You say as the heads of the organization you cannot censor or restrict any resolution ? For instance, if a resolution comes in with respect to an arbitration agreement you cannot decide as a matter of procedure that tlie convention has no jurisdiction over it? Mr. HuTCHESON. The convention has the jurisdiction, not me as general president. Mr. Owens. You say the convention has jurisdiction over that arbi- tration agreement ? Mr. Hutcheson. No, sir; I am not talking about arbitration agree- ment; I am talking about resolutions introduced at a convention of the United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America; and there was a resolution introduced there b}' 046. Mr. Owens. A resolution with respect to that directive of those three arbitrators; correct? Mr. Hutcheson. Well, it referred to them, of course. It referred to the action of the executive council. Mr. Owens. What jurisdiction did the general convention have over those arbitrators ? You know your labor rules and regulations, so tell me; I don't know. Mr. Hutcheson. Wh}-, they have no jurisdiction over those arbitrators. JMr. Owens. What were they expected to do with the resolution? _Mr. Hutcheson. To endorse it like they did. Naturally that is what the delegates introduced it for, expecting it to be endorsed; and it was, unanimously. Mr. Owens. You mean you endorsed a resolution that the directive should be changed? Mr. Hutcheson. Mr. Congressman, if you had listened to my pre- sentation you wouldn't have to ask that kind of a question, because it isn't mentioned in that resolution about the directive being changed. It said nothing about a three-man directive. It had to do with dealing with the executive council of the American Federation of Labor. Mr. Owens. For that purpose? Mr. Hutcheson. For what purpose ? Mr. Owens. Having the directive changed. Mr. Hutcheson. Well, if that is what you think. I am not going to attempt to disabuse your mind of it. Mr. Owens. All ri^ht, then we agree on that.