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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1437 cians, the United Carpenters and Joiners of America, and I think the electricians. The painters Avere in and they were out. The lATSE was in and they were out. Xow, arranoements could have been made whereby they were all in there—the mechanical trades I am talking about. The basic agreement would be able to take care of all these supposed difficulties. jSIr. OwEXS. It sounded very good to me. Mr. HuTCHEsoN. It still sounds good to anyone who will give it reasonable thought and consideration, provided all the mechanical trades are in it. Mr. Owens It seems to me if the machinists, and even the teamsters, who went through the line, were all in some sort of an agreement, as you say a basic agreement which would take care of everyone, that Avould be the only answer I would be pleased A'ery much if even our hearing here would bring about some meeting which would establish a basic agreement and would end that difficult}^ for all time in the future. No one would be more pleased than I. In sitting here I would not feel anything was accomplished if something was not done when we are through. Mr. HuTciiEsox. Xow, Mr. Congressman, let me ask you another question, and in asking it I am not being sarcastic, so please do not misunderstand me. Would it be your thought that Congress Avould—along the lines of the Taft-Hartley Act. wliich we do not like—enact something to cure those ills you are talking about ^ Mr. Owens. AVe all know we do not want compulsorj^ arbitration, don't we? Mr. HuTCHESON. I don't know how you would make it work, as long as we are Americans. Mr. Owens. Mr. Johnston mentioned something about having an arbitration agreement or provision in each contract. He says he is not providing the terms, but he wants to have Congress pass a law. It seems to me, if Congress passed a law saying the term would have to be in there, either written in by the parties or put in automatically^ we would be putting a term in there, and while it might not be com- pulsory arbitration, as we understand it, it w^ould be in the nature of compulsory arbitration. However, in this particular case we are having arbitration difficulty ]-iglit within the union itself. Ml-. HrTciiKsox. Mr. Congressman, it would ill become me to criti- size the thoughts of a gentleman like Mr. Johnston. He has a perfect right to his ideas and he is a learned gentleman, but I do not think he knows all about the labor movement. As an illustration, we liave had—and we probably will not have so many in the future because of your Taft-Hartley law—we have had for years many a closed-shop contract with our employers, with the provision in many of those contracts—I would not say'all of them— whereby if there is a misunderstanding as to the meaning of that agreement it would go to arbitration. We do not call that compulsory arbitration. That is voluntary arbitration. In my opinion tliat is what ought to be done. 67383—48—vol. 2 26